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Apr 6 2022 03:09pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ 6 Apr 2022 16:06)
They made it a crime to spread deliberate disinformation about Russian military operations. This law was not aimed at random citizens, but at the former mainstream media outlets in Russia which have now left (another massive win for them.)

If I spread fakes about how US marines were raping babies in Baghdad, and went to great lengths to produce such a believable fake, and it got hundreds of thousands of views, do you think I would get off scot free? Doubtful.

also, by the "rest of the free world" you must mean every country except Ukraine, where you can be tortured and executed merely for expressing a favorable view about Russia, and where somebody like me would be sadistically and slowly tortured to death for my views.



Define “misinformation.”

Oh wait, you can’t. Because Putin and the Kremlin have to define it for you.

Sit down.
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Apr 6 2022 03:11pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Apr 6 2022 02:29pm)
You are supporting rapes, lootings, and unarmed civilians massacres by spreading lies.
Once the elements will be completely irrefutable, crimes and war loss, then your shitmulti will magically disappear. End of story.


And you're another sheep that has no idea what you're talking about.

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Apr 6 2022 03:11pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 6 2022 04:06pm)
They made it a crime to spread deliberate disinformation about Russian military operations. This law was not aimed at random citizens, but at the former mainstream media outlets in Russia which have now left (another massive win for them.)

If I spread fakes about how US marines were raping babies in Baghdad, and went to great lengths to produce such a believable fake, and it got hundreds of thousands of views, do you think I would get off scot free? Doubtful.

also, by the "rest of the free world" you must mean every country except Ukraine, where you can be tortured and executed merely for expressing a favorable view about Russia, and where somebody like me would be sadistically and slowly tortured to death for my views.


"Deliberate disinformation" is anyone who reports anything that hasn't been approved by the Kremlin. It applies to everyone.

Of course you'd get off scot free, Putin isn't going to arrest you for doing what he tells you to.
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Apr 6 2022 03:17pm
I dont even know what you guys are arguing about.

Russia is at war and is stopping the spread of (factual) negative information regarding its war efforts
Ukraine is defending and also stopping the spread of (factual) negative information

Yes the fighting in East Ukraine over the last number of years has gotten little airtime in western media
Yes i am sure what is happening in Ukraine is getting no airtime in russia
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Apr 6 2022 03:31pm
Quote (ferdia @ Apr 6 2022 04:17pm)
I dont even know what you guys are arguing about.

Russia is at war and is stopping the spread of (factual) negative information regarding its war efforts
Ukraine is defending and also stopping the spread of (factual) negative information

Yes the fighting in East Ukraine over the last number of years has gotten little airtime in western media
Yes i am sure what is happening in Ukraine is getting no airtime in russia


Chopsticks is a genuine Russian troll, spreading Kremlin propaganda, while poorly posing as an American. That's the whole problem here. Everyone else can have heated discussions about policy or whatever, but he's just a troll and deserves to be treated as such.
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Quote (ferdia @ 6 Apr 2022 23:17)
I dont even know what you guys are arguing about.

Russia is at war and is stopping the spread of (factual) negative information regarding its war efforts
Ukraine is defending and also stopping the spread of (factual) negative information

Yes the fighting in East Ukraine over the last number of years has gotten little airtime in western media
Yes i am sure what is happening in Ukraine is getting no airtime in russia


again with the simplistic false equivalences...
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Apr 6 2022 03:44pm
Quote (Santara @ Apr 6 2022 09:31pm)
Chopsticks is a genuine Russian troll, spreading Kremlin propaganda, while poorly posing as an American. That's the whole problem here. Everyone else can have heated discussions about policy or whatever, but he's just a troll and deserves to be treated as such.


I agree that he's an actor of the state. It's actually incredible that the Russian government would pay people to post on a dead forum like jsp to sway the opinion of maybe 20 people. No wonder people can't afford to eat there
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Apr 6 2022 03:44pm
reminder to self : dont respond to toxic trash.

Quote (dro94 @ Apr 6 2022 10:44pm)
I agree that he's an actor of the state. It's actually incredible that the Russian government would pay people to post on a dead forum like jsp to sway the opinion of maybe 20 people. No wonder people can't afford to eat there


I would contest he is merely providing a different viewpoint. its healthy for different viewpoints to clash, provided it does not plummet to mindless raging. its also safer in the round for such voices to be heard, only to better understand a positon. while our resident troll (fender, above) is about and is probably going mental right now, i still feel obliged to say this.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 6 2022 03:48pm
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Apr 6 2022 03:45pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 6 2022 03:08pm)
Calling Russia's actions in Ukraine an "invasion" rather than a "special military operation" is not disinformation, it's the plain truth. :rofl:


Thanks to the fact that legacy mainstream media outlets have been forced to leave Russia because they can't lie about Russia's military operation in Ukraine, Russia is now one of the least brainwashed nations in the world.

It's still perfectly legal for them to lie to the rest of us, though. How ironic that you continue to act like you have even the slightest idea of what you speak of while you suck up their lies constantly, on a daily basis.

The entertainment I get out of you people never stops.
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Apr 6 2022 03:47pm
Quote (dro94 @ Apr 6 2022 03:44pm)
I agree that he's an actor of the state. It's actually incredible that the Russian government would pay people to post on a dead forum like jsp to sway the opinion of maybe 20 people. No wonder people can't afford to eat there


No, it's incredible that you degenerates are so brainwashed you think anybody that has a favorable view of Russia's operation is a guaranteed paid troll. But at-least it is entertaining for me.

It should be noted that I don't side with Russia's operation specifically because it is Russia. I do so because the truth is on their side.

The truth is really the only thing I've ever cared about in the end.
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