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what do you base that on? afaik, every head to head poll suggests the opposite
got a link to one or two such polls which show Sanders doing better than Biden in a h2h against Trump?
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. biden is a heavily flawed candidate (much like hillary was, though in different ways): his record leaves plenty of room to attack, he is a gaffe machine, and he's clearly mentally deteriorating. he doesn't excite or mobilise any new democratic voters, and is the embodiment of what america (somewhat surprisingly) rejected in the 2016 elections: the political establishment in washington.
Sure, Biden is a deeply flawed candidate, but so is Sanders. There is a very deep treasure trove of attack angles that the Trump campaign can field against Bernie, and they havent even started digging into it. And no, those attacks are not limited to a dull "Bernie = socialist, socialism = bad"!
The video clips where he praises NK and Venezuela, even calls Venezuela a place "where the American dream is more alive" (than in the present-day U.S.) will not go over well with 90+% of the electorate. His calls to force the 160m+ Americans with a private healthcare plan to drop it in favor of a government-run plan will be a tough sell. His honesty in admitting that middle class taxes will have to be raised will be a tough sell. His calls for free healthcare for illegal immigrants will be a tough sell, and not just with the racist or ""racist"" parts of Trump's base - that shit wont fly with centrists and swing voters either. His hopes of flipping Texas based on latino turnout will end the moment the millions of Texans who are still depending on the oil and aerospace industries hear about what his Green New Deal would do to them. Oh yeah, talking about damaging video clips, Bernie once said in an interview that every prison inmate shall have the right to vote, even guys like Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the Boston marathon bomber. Do you seriously think that this position will have majority appeal?
When it comes to Biden and the comparisons with Hillary 2016: Hillary was much less liked than Biden, so that's one important difference. Hilary's net favorability rating was lower than that of any other prior presidential candidate in modern history. Only Trump's was even lower, but Hillary being extremely unpopular and polarizing in her own right neutralized Trump's unpopularity to a certain extent. Simply put, 2016 was forcing a lot of voters to choose between the devil and the deep blue sea. Biden vs Trump in 2020 would be a choice between the devil and 'meh' for these voters.
On top, Hillary was putting a much stronger focus on identity politics and pandering to SJWs than Bernie 2016 did. This time around, Biden benefits from his branding as the "anti-woke" candidate among the Democratic field. (And Bernie's embrace of latinos will rile up Trump's base...) Biden also benefits from his ties to the Obama administration, particularly among black voters. He benefits from the fact that everyone in the Democratic coalition will take Trump seriously this time around. He benefits from "Trump fatigue" which is affecting a lot of swing voters.
When it comes to Bernie vs Biden: Bernie's entire rationale for beating Trump is predicated on huge turnout of progressive, young and/or latino voters. Until now, this turnout hasnt really materialized. Iowa and Nevada had mediocre turnout, and the one in New Hampshire was mostly high because of their open primary system where GOP members could cast a vote in the Democratic primaries (note that the GOP didnt have a competitive primary in contrast to 2016). But we'll have to wait and see what happens tomorrow on Super Tuesday.
Furthermore, I would argue that Bernie's coalition is less efficiently positioned in the electoral college. Bernie is really strong in California, Oregon, Washington and the North East, he also might be strong in Nevada and Michigan. But places where he is decidedly weaker than nationally are Florida, North Carolina and Pennsylvania. Biden, on the other hand, is a lot stronger and Florida and Pennsylvania, and he might also have the edge over Trump in Michigan and Wisconsin. What it boils down to, imho, is that Bernie needs to flip Arizona (well possible) and Texas (that's a huge mountain to climb). Biden, on the other hand, will be very competitive in North Carolina and might even make a play for Georgia.
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i still don't get your support for that slimeball. literally the only thing he has objectively going for him is his age. his policies (the few one could even start to guess from his empty rhetoric) are of yesteryear, and his vision is non-existent. don't be sad though, he'll stick around for sure. the guy is so power hungry and focused, he will be donors' darling for decades to come, barring a true revolution of the whole corrupt system through a sanders presidency (which admittedly is rather unlikely). maybe he'll end up like paul ryan, but i wouldn't be surprised if he was lifted to the throne eventually, and you will have your young-ish corporate shill that you so desire for some reason...
Agreed. I also dont get certain people's fascination with Buttigieg.
This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Mar 2 2020 09:05am