Quote (chopstickz777 @ 7 Jun 2022 22:18)
Unfortunately it is true, but as a Pole you are just too biased to want to accept it.
That's fine. You will wake up sooner or later, but know this - the longer you refuse to see the truth, the harder it will be for you when it becomes undeniable.
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I have seen and witnessed enough of Russia government actions to make correct decisions. Have you?
Quote (ferdia @ 7 Jun 2022 22:31)
Not sure why this is only airing in Ireland now but:
As commented on a french site ~
Berlin (AFP) – Former German chancellor Angela Merkel on Monday defended her 2008 decision to block Ukraine from immediately joining NATO, rejecting President Volodymyr Zelensky's criticism as Russia's invasion clouds her 16-year legacy. Zelensky in a night-late address had described as a "miscalculation" a Franco-German-led decision at the NATO summit in Bucharest to not admit his country to the alliance despite a push from the United States. "I invite Ms Merkel and Mr (Nicolas) Sarkozy to visit Bucha and see what the policy of concessions to Russia has led to in 14 years," he said, referring to the alleged atrocities against Ukrainian civilians by Russian troops that world powers have described as "war crimes".
The Ukrainian president also accused the European leaders of seeking to appease Russia with their stance then. But Merkel in a short statement issued by her spokeswoman said she "stands by her decisions in relation to the 2008 NATO summit in Bucharest". "In view of the atrocities uncovered in Bucha and other places in Ukraine, all efforts by the government and the international community to stand by Ukraine's side and to bring an end to Russia's barbarism and war against Ukraine have the former chancellor's full support," added the spokeswoman. Germany had deemed it too early for Ukraine to join NATO in 2008 because it found that the political conditions were not met at that point.
I already told you some time ago that Germans, also maybe little bit French, play their own risky game.
They dont seem to want Ukraine to join western world, as UA is a big country and it would mean some competition for germano-franco leadership of the Europe. A leadership they dont want to share. Especially Germans. So they would rather see Russia capture Ukraine and enslave them. Thats why they push on Ukraine to accept a cease fire that benefits Russians but not Ukrainians, and their military supplies is very few if any.
But the game they are playing is very risky.
Because Ukrainians are battle veterans who were at war for a very long time and are probably the only nation that can really stop Russian advances in Europe.
Western peoples, including soldiers, while rich, hardworking, smart etc are also too spoiled. they will most probably rather just ran away than risk their lives. A kind of repeat from 1940year, when Hitler took powerful France in only like 2 weeks blitz war campaign. Also if Russia takes over Ukraine, they will just make a mass conscription, just like they do in Donbas area now. So they will have many "soldiers" to attack further west.
This post was edited by Ironfister on Jun 7 2022 03:18pm