Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 6 Jun 2022 23:25)
Macron alluded to the "diktat" imposed in 1919 by the winners of the First World War in Germany, with heavy territorial losses and repairs, which led to a new world war in 1939-45.
It's better to not unnecessarly humiliate Russia and especially: Russians voters...
The better conditions are, the faster Russia could intergrate EU bloc later. The idea is to win over Putin Russia on the military side, but not to over expose it nor flowing hate toward Russian people.
This is why he's so annoying with this... And constantly tries to maintain compromises possibility. Pretty hard to have average people realizing this in an over polarized virtual world.
Imagine nationalists, populists, russian politicians after that if Russia is completely ruined like fuck, they could win, do you want north korea at your door ?
So he has an argument, and wtf Russian TV is just crazy on everything, not only on mocking Macron ^_^
How do you expect Ukrainians to defend when you guys send them just 6 howitzers and Germans send none?
Ukraine has their own artillery, but its 152mm, there are only a few this kind of ammo producers outside Russia. Thats why they desperately need nato, 155mm artillery.
And you cant compare 1919 Germany with todays Russia. Nobody will do anything to Russia.
Anytime they want they can say some usual Russia bullshit like: "ok, we are done with our special operation, enough nazi were killed, Russian minority was successfuly evacuated to Russia, time to go home (pre-feb24 borders)"
Its that simple.
What Ukrainians probably cant accept is a ceasefire without Russia retreating. It will only give Russians time to regroup, reinforce and better prepare their attack next time. Not to mention millions Ukrainians left behind in Russia occupation.
Would you leave behind lets say Marseille, Nice, Bordeax if it fallen under enemy occupation? Obviously not.
This post was edited by Ironfister on Jun 6 2022 04:53pm