Quote (IceMage @ Apr 21 2019 07:50am)

There's literally nothing in the report that someone can point to as evidence of conspiracy. If Mueller had evidence of it, he would've included it in the report. People need to accept that.... the idea that the Trump team managed to keep hidden some conspiracy from 2.5 years of FBI scrutiny is laughable.

Quote (Skinned @ Apr 21 2019 08:00am)

One of my coworkers was bitching about it and was mad that I said it was over. But it is lol. Unmitigated victory. Trump is better off now that the FBI took their time and the report was released.

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Apr 20 2019 11:04am)

How many people have access to the non redacted version ?

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/04/20/books/20bookmueller/20bookmueller-superJumbo.jpg

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 20 2019 07:29pm)

I think you really undersell the fact that Trump would have fired Mueller if he had gotten his way, not on the basis of conflicts of interest or prosecutorial overreach, but on the basis of "I want this rigged witch hunt to end right now". It was only the presence of mind, or the integrity, of his staff and cabinet that prevented him from getting into (boiling) hot water.

Quote (Goomshill @ Apr 20 2019 06:01pm)

What could Trump have done better? Allow the special counsel to impinge freely on the executive without any pushback and set a precedent for ceding presidential authority that would neuter future presidents? This has been an albatross hanging over the heads of two of the past four presidents, and as a nation we need to cut it the fuck out and get back to governance. But the report as is showed that, *taps bullhorn* trump did not collude with russia, and everything was exactly like I said it was from day 1, and that Trump didn't even delve into the grey area of constitutionally questionable opposition to the probe, let alone provide a provable case of obstruction of justice.

Quote (majorblood @ Apr 21 2019 10:03am)

while you more level headed guys can see it's over every time i'm at the gym CNN keeps pushing it like it's not over and is actually ramping up. Am I missing something here or is it just typical hyper sensational news?

Quote (majorblood @ Apr 21 2019 10:03am)

while you more level headed guys can see it's over every time i'm at the gym CNN keeps pushing it like it's not over and is actually ramping up. Am I missing something here or is it just typical hyper sensational news?

Quote (duffman316 @ Apr 21 2019 10:12am)

can someone give me a very short summary on the trump 180 on the mueller report? thought he was ecstatic about it

Quote (IceMage @ Apr 21 2019 10:11am)

According to you Trump's presidency has been a resounding success... so I'm having trouble understanding how an investigator who kept quiet for 2 years was some massive nuisance.

Realistically, it was probably better for Trump that a Special Counsel took over the case. If it was at main Justice there probably would've been more leaks.

In a sane political world, the Trump right would be angered at Russia and the Trump lackeys who had suspicious contacts with Russia-linked individuals. That was the reason for the investigation after all. But that would require accepting reality.

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Just before Thanksgiving, House Republicans amended the list of documents they’d like President Trump to declassify in the Russia investigation. With little fanfare or explanation, the lawmakers, led by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), added a string of emails between the FBI and the Department of Justice (DOJ) to their wish list.

Sources tell me the targeted documents may provide the most damning evidence to date of potential abuses of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), evidence that has been kept from the majority of members of Congress for more than two years.

The email exchanges included then-FBI Director James Comey, key FBI investigators in the Russia probe and lawyers in the DOJ’s national security division, and they occurred in early to mid-October, before the FBI successfully secured a FISA warrant to spy on Trump campaign adviser Carter Page.

The email exchanges show the FBI was aware — before it secured the now-infamous warrant — that there were intelligence community concerns about the reliability of the main evidence used to support it: the Christopher Steele dossier.

The exchanges also indicate FBI officials were aware that Steele, the former MI6 British intelligence operative then working as a confidential human source for the bureau, had contacts with news media reporters before the FISA warrant was secured.

The FBI fired Steele on Nov. 1, 2016 — two weeks after securing the warrant — on the grounds that he had unauthorized contacts with the news media.

But the FBI withheld from the American public and Congress, until months later, that Steele had been paid to find his dirt on Trump by a firm doing political opposition research for the Democratic Party and for Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, and that Steele himself harbored hatred for Trump.

Quote (duffman316 @ Apr 21 2019 10:12am)

can someone give me a very short summary on the trump 180 on the mueller report? thought he was ecstatic about it

Quote (tagged4nothing @ Apr 21 2019 10:28am)

this is only partially true. that's how the "people" took it. it was based on false info though.

i'm going to be lazy with link for the moment, i got shit to do... happy easter...
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/419901-fbi-email-chain-may-provide-most-damning-evidence-of-fisa-abuses-yet

Quote (majorblood @ Apr 21 2019 04:03pm)

while you more level headed guys can see it's over every time i'm at the gym CNN keeps pushing it like it's not over and is actually ramping up. Am I missing something here or is it just typical hyper sensational news?