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Jun 9 2023 10:24am
Quote (El1te @ Jun 9 2023 11:21am)
Because you need it spelled out for you:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8435868/


So you are wanting to ban anal sex?

How would that work and what is your expected harm reduction versus harm caused?
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It takes a special kind of mental gymnastics to argue that sodomy doesn't spread disease
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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jun 9 2023 09:24am)
So you are wanting to ban anal sex?

How would that work and what is your expected harm reduction versus harm caused?


I'm not advocating for any particular law - I'm pointing out that if public harm is the objective measure of which to restrict freedoms, then banning anal sex should be priority #1
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Jun 9 2023 10:26am
Quote (El1te @ Jun 9 2023 09:24am)
It takes a special kind of mental gymnastics to argue that sodomy doesn't spread disease


Nobody is arguing that. You're doing this absurd thing where you make wildly unscientific claims such as "monkeypox is 100% caused by sodomy", and then pretend that people are claiming that there's no disease ever spread via sodomy when people call you out on your claims.

Can disease spread through sodomy? Yes.

Is monkeypox "100% caused by sodomy"? No.

Pretty simple distinction, my guy.

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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jun 9 2023 09:20am)
Now you have to look at the harm of enforcement of a ban versus what is prevented.

In this case you would quickly find that there is no way to efficiently enforce a ban, and so the harm you cause is high but the prevention is low.

Which makes it basically impossible to justify a ban on sodomy


In this case, the harm reduction would be a significant reduction in HIV cases along with other diseases spread by sodomy.

And how it would work: certainly its hard to enforce a ban, but bans already exist in many other nations.
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Quote (Handcuffs @ Jun 9 2023 09:24am)
Many social ills are the result of straight people, I agree!


Straight people might cause social ills, but at least they also contribute to society. One of their biggest contribution is the continuation of the species. What do gays have? They just consume resources and call straight people "breeders".
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Straight people might cause social ills, but at least they also contribute to society. One of their biggest contribution is the continuation of the species. What do gays have? They just consume resources and call straight people "breeders".


Why is "continuation of the species" important? What is our species working towards that justifies continuation?
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Quote (Handcuffs @ Jun 9 2023 01:24pm)
Many social ills are the result of straight people, I agree!


Well, maybe we should send all the gays to an island and then we can see which side progresses further

You guys might have us in the short term but I feel like like long term we got this in the bag
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Why is "continuation of the species" important? What is our species working towards that justifies continuation?


If you need to ask these questions, you won't understand the answers anyway.
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Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jun 9 2023 09:29am)
Well, maybe we should send all the gays to an island and then we can see which side progresses further

You guys might have us in the short term but I feel like like long term we got this in the bag


Gay Island would be much more fun, that's for sure.
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