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Jun 6 2022 07:35am
Quote (Lvivz @ Jun 6 2022 05:13am)
go back to sniffing glue


Lmao, tears.
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Jun 6 2022 07:40am
Quote (Djunior @ 6 Jun 2022 21:32)
Ukraine could've helped itself by staying neutral and uphold good relations with Russia, simple as that.

Trouble started for Ukraine when they started stealing Russian gas on a large scale and not paying their gas bills on top of that.

EU started helping Ukraine by paying their gas bills (billions worth), I guess this was the first red flag for Russia. After that came promised NATO membership in the future (2008), then Euromaidan and so on.


I heard from Taiwanese media , there might be a possible revolt inside Ukraine government now.
Not sure if that is true.
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#9713
Jun 6 2022 07:41am
Quote (Djunior @ 6 Jun 2022 13:21)
You are fucking dumb if you think sending more weapons to Ukraine is a good idea.


We can see you don't live in the area. Not to mention you have no global view of the situation (and probably of any situation happening in reality)
Not helping Ukraine would lead to an even bigger bloodbath, something horrible to watch and the ultimate white card for more annexations.

Our governments already have take their decision, i means which kind of fucking son of a trash would say: "let's allow Russian army to completely annex Ukraine and to extend war crimes we are now aware of (loots, deportations, executions, rapes) ?
Many normal humans wish these PutinLovers get their whole families to be send on battle fields instead, just to help them understand who matters and who's not :lol:



This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Jun 6 2022 08:00am
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Jun 6 2022 07:55am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Jun 6 2022 09:40am)
I heard from Taiwanese media , there might be a possible revolt inside Ukraine government now.
Not sure if that is true.


Not seeing anything on this.

I think internal friction is the natural outcome here though. When thousands of troops died and/or are being captured, when counteroffensives are not going they way they wanted there's going to be turmoil.

I could see an internal split between Zelensky+ whatever political factions and foreign forces supporting him vs the Ukrainian military brass. I'm sure there's trade blaming happening internally.
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Jun 6 2022 07:57am
Quote (ofthevoid @ 6 Jun 2022 21:55)
Not seeing anything on this.

I think internal friction is the natural outcome here though. When thousands of troops died and/or are being captured, when counteroffensives are not going they way they wanted there's going to be turmoil.

I could see an internal split between Zelensky+ whatever political factions and foreign forces supporting him vs the Ukrainian military brass. I'm sure there's trade blaming happening internally.


Sounds about right.
And so many weapons that Nato and US sent to Ukraine seems to be gone.
There are some of these weapons are starting to appear in Middle East, that were given to Ukraine.
Not a lot though , but some.
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Jun 6 2022 08:06am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jun 6 2022 03:41pm)
We can see you don't live in the area. Not to mention you have no global view of the situation (and probably of any situation happening in reality)
Not helping Ukraine would lead to an even bigger bloodbath, something horrible to watch and the ultimate white card for more annexations.

Our governments already have take their decision, i means which kind of fucking son of a trash would say: "let's allow Russian army to completely annex Ukraine and to extend war crimes we are now aware of (loots, deportations, executions, rapes) ?
Many normal humans wish these PutinLovers get their whole families to be send on battle fields instead, just to help them understand who matter and who's not :lol:


See that's what I mean with you being dumb. Ukraine is being leveled only because of that so called "help". More weapons, more death and destruction.

More importantly if the West had not offered Ukraine NATO membership (also a form of helping them) this whole shit-show wouldn't have happened in the first place because Ukraine on it's own would never ever have taken on Russia all by itself.

Now think about that dumb dumb.

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Jun 6 2022 08:06am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 6 Jun 2022 13:40)
I heard from Taiwanese media , there might be a possible revolt inside Ukraine government now.
Not sure if that is true.


Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 6 Jun 2022 13:57)
Sounds about right.
And so many weapons that Nato and US sent to Ukraine seems to be gone.
There are some of these weapons are starting to appear in Middle East, that were given to Ukraine.
Not a lot though , but some.


Source or no source ?
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Jun 6 2022 08:06am
Quote (Djunior @ 6 Jun 2022 16:32)
Ukraine could've helped itself by staying neutral and uphold good relations with Russia, simple as that.

Trouble started for Ukraine when they started stealing Russian gas on a large scale and not paying their gas bills on top of that.

EU started helping Ukraine by paying their gas bills (billions worth), I guess this was the first red flag for Russia. After that came promised NATO membership in the future (2008), then Euromaidan and so on.


Czechoslovakia could have helped itself by staying neutral and give up Sudetenland to Germany. It didn't work however. Germany intervened to protect German speaking minority opressed by nationalist Czechs. It also didn't stop them from liberating France and Poland. They even had plans of liberating USSR from communists. These plans have some flaws like moving majority of population by Urals and using them as slaves. Hitler probably shared your position about supplying USSR with all the Land Lease stuff. Now we have Land Lease two point O.
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#9719
Jun 6 2022 08:09am
I'm not buying WW2 analogy, this is a completely different era and Ukraine and Russia used to be good friends until the gas disputes. If you google Ukraine-Russia gas disputes you can read all about it.
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Jun 6 2022 08:10am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 6 Jun 2022 16:40)
I heard from Taiwanese media , there might be a possible revolt inside Ukraine government now.
Not sure if that is true.


I see only one person who is too smart for a clown Zelensky. Valery Theodorovich Zaluzhny, Commander-in-Chief.
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