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Jan 11 2022 03:08pm
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Jan 11 2022 12:57pm)
considering NetflixObeseWidow was flaming everyone who even pointed out to lab leak while relying on his "medical expertise", I can't wait for him to reply now with something along the lines of requiring more proofs than just emails from the man controlling media outlets during the whole pandemic.


The best the republicans mining Fauci's emails with FOIA could come up with is a couple emails to Fauci from people saying maybe its 50:50? Show me the replies and the context or get out.
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Jan 11 2022 03:32pm
I'm still wondering how osha can mandate a vaccine.
"emergency temporary standard"

what's temporary about a vaccine with little data about the effects it can give you?
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Jan 11 2022 03:36pm
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If you understood basic science, you'd realize none of this is conspiratorial. A handful of out of context emails between professionals debating what some specific data means isn't a smoking gun, its business as usual.


They were conspiring to shut down the media coverage of the lab leak hypothesis. Its not ambiguous, they are on email deliberating with each other on what powers they could use to suppress it. What they are 'debating' is how best to shut down a media story, literally stating that the story harms China as a reason. And other emails show they were aware the evidence behind the lab leak was compelling, to the point the top officials were saying it was more likely than not. So we've got proof they thought it was credible and probably true, and proof they were conspiring to suppress it anyway to benefit China.
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Jan 11 2022 03:37pm
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They were conspiring to shut down the media coverage of the lab leak hypothesis. Its not ambiguous, they are on email deliberating with each other on what powers they could use to suppress it. What they are 'debating' is how best to shut down a media story, literally stating that the story harms China as a reason. And other emails show they were aware the evidence behind the lab leak was compelling, to the point the top officials were saying it was more likely than not. So we've got proof they thought it was credible and probably true, and proof they were conspiring to suppress it anyway to benefit China.


the fact that people were ever convinced it didnt come from the lab astounds me.

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Jan 11 2022 03:42pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 11 2022 01:36pm)
They were conspiring to shut down the media coverage of the lab leak hypothesis. Its not ambiguous, they are on email deliberating with each other on what powers they could use to suppress it. What they are 'debating' is how best to shut down a media story, literally stating that the story harms China as a reason. And other emails show they were aware the evidence behind the lab leak was compelling, to the point the top officials were saying it was more likely than not. So we've got proof they thought it was credible and probably true, and proof they were conspiring to suppress it anyway to benefit China.


A single out of context email to Fauci is proof of a grand conspiracy? The final email the republicans released is "Just ignore it, it'll go away".

If you look at the time stamp its early in the pandemic still before more rigorous analyses came out. Saying 60:40 or 50:50 doesn't mean "Probably true"
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Jan 11 2022 03:44pm
Quote (hunter_1 @ Jan 11 2022 04:32pm)
I'm still wondering how osha can mandate a vaccine.
"emergency temporary standard"

what's temporary about a vaccine with little data about the effects it can give you?


Pfizer's Q1 earnings report.
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Jan 11 2022 03:51pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 11 2022 03:37pm)
the fact that people were ever convinced it didnt come from the lab astounds me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSfejgwbDQ8


Has there been new information? I haven't seen anything that points to a lab leak specifically. Like, we can be highly confident the virus wasn't designed. What evidence do we have that it specifically got leaked in a way that's interesting?

Like, the idea that it was a natural sample that was taken and stored and then got out is "lab leak", but it's not meaningfully different from the non-lab-leak hypothesis.
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Jan 11 2022 04:02pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jan 11 2022 04:51pm)
Has there been new information? I haven't seen anything that points to a lab leak specifically. Like, we can be highly confident the virus wasn't designed. What evidence do we have that it specifically got leaked in a way that's interesting?

Like, the idea that it was a natural sample that was taken and stored and then got out is "lab leak", but it's not meaningfully different from the non-lab-leak hypothesis.


being told it was from the wet market and due to poor people eating wild meat was the original narrative. TOTALLY NOT THE LAB, DID NOT COME FROM THE LAB, IT WAS POOR PEOPLE.

i dont think it was designed, i dont think it was released on purpose, i dont think there's even malevolence at play. it was a fuck up, i dont really even care what happened, but it was a lab fuck up. someone broke protocol. and china covered it up, and there are people who helped hide this pretty obvious reality here in america. why? because if they admit it came from the lab it puts a spotlight on the lab and people run with the above conspiracy theories i dont proscribe to. but i dont care for being lied to so that idiots dont run wild with stupid ideas. the same way that mask ineffectiveness lies were furthered to prevent a lack of masks for front line workers.
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Jan 11 2022 04:06pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jan 11 2022 10:51pm)
Has there been new information? I haven't seen anything that points to a lab leak specifically. Like, we can be highly confident the virus wasn't designed. What evidence do we have that it specifically got leaked in a way that's interesting?

Like, the idea that it was a natural sample that was taken and stored and then got out is "lab leak", but it's not meaningfully different from the non-lab-leak hypothesis.


loads of data and revelations clearly point toward the lab theory for a long time now as does common sense, these coincidences dont exist

still denying it is like you having a breaking bad style meth lab in your basement, the meth consumption and trade explodes in your area and when the police finds your lab they are like "nah, this guy has nothing to do with this, must be someone else"

that wuhan did the exact research that would get you covid, there have been cover ups all over the place and just today we got some additional news on faucis involvement

this piece of trash should be in jail
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Jan 11 2022 04:08pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Jan 11 2022 02:06pm)
loads of data and revelations clearly point toward the lab theory for a long time now as does common sense, these coincidences dont exist

still denying it is like you having a breaking bad style meth lab in your basement, the meth consumption and trade explodes in your area and when the police finds your lab they are like "nah, this guy has nothing to do with this, must be someone else"

that wuhan did the exact research that would get you covid, there have been cover ups all over the place and just today we got some additional news on faucis involvement

this piece of trash should be in jail


Loads of data? Lets see it then. Like actual data not FoxNews articles.
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