Im loving how defeated and pathetic the entire GOP looked.

Even their Counsel was beside himself trying to string coherent relevant questions together.

No Jordan Yelling and rhetoric today.

I do understand that, but that isnt the case

there was collusion

read the fucking Mueller report.


you are like a 5 year that keeps trying to show me a ball, I saw your ball, it doesn't add anything to the conversation/point. Stop showing me your ball. Go play with your ball.

i keep asking you the same question because you keep giving the same answer.

Roger Stone wasn't indicted on collusion. no one has been. there is no crime for collusion, but as collusion in the american electoral process would be treason, there are no treason charges.

collusion means "worked with the russians" not worked with wiki leaks, not obstructed, not lied to congress, etc.

so i'll ask for the 12th time Horford. what specific act by Roger stone counts as collusion? (or any other person for that matter)

the hearings are done now, bring all your focus to daddy.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Nov 21 2019 03:29pm

I have. I also don't suffer from TDS like you.

Go Read the Mueller Report

Page 1
Page 11-14
Page 17-31
Page 44
Page 48
Page 51-66

Worked with Russians to coordinate a Hack of the DNC server and coordinated the connection of Russia hackers to revealing the damaging information on wikileaks
Lied to congress about it (can be considered a treasonous act)
Its all in the Mueller report, had you read it, you wouldn't keep trying to show me your ball.

What the Mueller report says can be summed up along these bullet points:

1. Trump Jr attempted to get damaging information from Russia in the tower meeting, likely unproveable but assumable Trump Sr knew about the meeting and it's aims.

2. Most of Russia's actions in 2015-2016 were to create chaos and undermine HRC via social media troll farms to sway public opinion and create instability in the entire process. no Trump team members have been implicated in cooperating in this process at any point then or since.

3. Roger Stone had contacts and Wikileaks, stemming from before his work with the Trump campaign. worked to cover his tracks either to maintain his contacts, protect Trump, or likely both. He passed along knowledge of Russian plans to release FBI inner dept memos and emails about the HRC email scandal stemming from the Anthony Wiener laptop indecent. Namely it's been proven Rudi knew about these coming revelations and presumably Trump did as well.

4. Roger Stone and many others lied to congress and/or mueller on several occaisons, ignored subpoenas, etc. Textbook Obstruction.

conclusion of the report. minor collusion presumable but not proven, major collusion not found. obstruction provable, but cant recommend charges for a sitting president, carry on with obstruction charges with Trump associates. unsure but likely obstruction charges could be pursued after Trump leaves office.



which of the above #'s is wrong, how is it wrong, and how is it actually collusion unlike what i characterize it as.

i read it, i understood it. Trump bad, Trump not russian agent. Trump obstruct, no can charge, yet. get his buddies, call it a day.

I'm still listening to the full days hearings at work. Went out to get lunch and heard Shiffs ending remarks. I agree with Ice. Very well done and ill add, everything he said was right and true...

It will be up to the GOP now to solidify their history.

This post was edited by Brian_D on Nov 21 2019 03:47pm

john is kill
no

He voted for Trump?

IF the House votes to impeach, when it gets to the Senate, the GOP will be in charge. THEY will be able to call whoever they want

And they WILL call the whistleblower, Hunter Biden, Schiff and w/e the name is... Chalupa?? Then the Dems BS case will fall apart. There will be no oust, and the Dems will then have to explain to the American Public why they pulled all this crap.
Then the true story about 2016 will come out... etc.

Not only that, but we will get the IG report in the middle of December, and the report from Durham or w/e his name is. Won't look very good for the Dems.

This post was edited by Ghot on Nov 21 2019 04:06pm