that 'argument' would be relevant if this conversation had been triggered by a post of me complaining that the attacks on biden were somehow unjustified. that, however, is not at all what i'm saying. what i'm saying is that they are extremely hypocritical, coming from people who support a scumbag who, as a grown man, deliberately walked into teenage girls locker rooms in order to see them naked, from a man who publicly fantasised about dating his own daughter, and who endorsed the kiddy fiddler roy moore.

i unmistakenly stated that i fully agree with the criticism that biden gets for his inappropriate behaviour, so you trying to change the main argument of my post in order to downplay the immense double standard of the trump cult, is a pretty dishonest.

Just to add context when Roy Moore was relevant the literal only person who supported him was Ghot. literally not a single other poster was on Moore's side. just ghot.

maybe day 1-2 when it was breaking, but once the story was out it was Ghot all alone. i make fun of Ghot for it a lot.

as to the rest, bit wordy man. people just want to laugh at democrats failing their own standard. it is funny. your post comes off kind of like someone explaining for 5 paragraphs why something doesn't count as a joke, after people in the room laughed already.

endorsing the kiddy fiddler moore was an item that belonged to the long list of things that trump did that were worse than creepy joe sniffing someone's head.

that said, i have no problem with ppl laughing about biden 'failing' - i merely pointed out the hypocrisy - that's where the 'problem' originated. i think both are fair points to be honest.

Goomshill would produce a 12 page manual in defense of Roy Moore if he were running today.

just for even more context: if I recall correctly, Trump endorsed Moore before the allegations of Moore stalking and molesting underage girls came out. there was enough shit in Moore's history at that point that it was a really bad idea to endorse this guy anyway, but still...

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 4 2019 05:36pm

False.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Moore_sexual_misconduct_allegations#Republican_politicians_and_groups

Also:


If I remember correctly, a few days ago I was criticizing Christian leaders for their Faustian bargain concerning Trump. I wasn't even aware of this example. Lol.

This post was edited by IceMage on Nov 4 2019 06:10pm

I'm confused, should they be voting against their interests?

i'm confused, are you saying a kiddy fiddler is better than a democrat?

If we're at a point where as Christians, voting for a credibly accused sexual assaulter of young teenage girls is acceptable because the other guy supports immoral policies which have been law for 60+ years in some cases, I don't know what to say to you. Where do you draw that line? Cause with that logic you could go pretty far in supporting evil, authoritarian people because it's better than the millions of unborn killed via abortion. Christians should demand a basic level of character and morality for our leaders, and if the society we live in insists on supporting immoral men, maybe the wise choice as Christians is to remove ourselves from the process. Leave to Caesar what is his.

Beside that, the main criticism I have is that these Christian leaders use their public statements to minimize and excuse immoral behavior from Trump(and others).

you both forgot bogie, but dw he's here now lol