d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Off-Topic > General Chat > Political & Religious Debate > Russia / Ukraine
Prev19609619629639645001Next
Closed New Topic New Poll
Member
Posts: 3,771
Joined: Sep 29 2021
Gold: 14,158.00
Jun 5 2022 09:17am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jun 5 2022 06:14am)
Putin warns West: Russia will hit Ukraine harder if new missiles supplied
=> What a fucking piece of shit.


Wow imagine them wanting to win the proxy war lol
Member
Posts: 2,492
Joined: Jan 30 2022
Gold: 0.00
Warn: 10%
Jun 5 2022 12:50pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Jun 5 2022 06:17pm)
Wow imagine them wanting to win the proxy war lol


Member
Posts: 66,666
Joined: May 17 2005
Gold: 17,384.69
Jun 5 2022 01:02pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ 5 Jun 2022 15:17)
Wow imagine them wanting to win the proxy war lol


https://www.francetvinfo.fr/monde/europe/manifestations-en-ukraine/guerre-en-ukraine-des-artilleurs-ukrainiens-utilisent-des-armes-francaises_5180191.html

Amazing, believe me.

Ukrainian artillerymen who use Caesar cannons delivered by France
heir target during this day? Russian artillery parts positioned at 17 kilometers.
"Just after shooting, the artillerymen must leave as soon as possible to avoid being spotted by the enemy," said journalist from France Télévisions, Maryse Burgot, present on the spot.
After each Caesar shooting, Ukrainian surveillance drones fly over targets targets such as Russian tanks destroyed here a few days ago.
According to the commander of this unit which has six caesars, they allowed the elimination of at least 80 pieces of Russian artillery.
These young Ukrainian artillerymen were trained in France, in the midst of war a month ago, on a military base in the south of France.

So goooood.
Member
Posts: 16,411
Joined: Apr 9 2007
Gold: 12,059.17
Jun 5 2022 01:03pm
Quote (dro94 @ 5 Jun 2022 09:52)
What's interesting from a mil standpoint is how the Ukrainians are reinforcing the furthest areas of the Donbass with equipment rather than accumulating them at a more strategically sound location like Slovyansk or Kramatorsk. They know Severodonetsk and Lysychansk are prone to encirclement, but would rather fight there than retreat with man and materiel intact

To an uninformed civilian like myself it doesn't make much sense, but perhaps their intelligence or that of their Western allies points to some Russian weaknesses we are not privy to. It could be as simple as them knowing Russia lacks infantry to take urban areas easily, so are using Severodonetsk as a way of attritioning Russian forces. Same goes for river crossing the Siverskyi Donets, which is perilous and requires excellent combined arms execution

Still, who wins in a war of attrition? With a significant equipment advantage and control of the ports, surely it is Russia, especially when they can switch to the defensive after finishing the land grab which will consume fewer resources. We haven't seen extensive counterattacks from Ukraine yet so we don't know if they are capable of retaking large swathes of land back (organised Russian retreats notwithstanding)


Did you see the map? Severodonetsk cant be really fully encircled, as there is a river that soldiers can cross when there is an order to retreat.
We are not Ukrainian generals, but so far they didnt let Russians encircle them, except for Mariupol where they left soldiers deliberately to keep Russians busy.
Nobody knows who will win this war, and what will be the result.
In my opinion, if Ukraine gets some serious security guarantees from NATO, they can leave Donbas in Russian hands.
But it will be up to Ukraine to decide, and they for sure shouldnt give it like for free, because Putin will simply regroup and hit them again.
Member
Posts: 3,771
Joined: Sep 29 2021
Gold: 14,158.00
Jun 5 2022 01:08pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jun 5 2022 01:02pm)
https://www.francetvinfo.fr/monde/europe/manifestations-en-ukraine/guerre-en-ukraine-des-artilleurs-ukrainiens-utilisent-des-armes-francaises_5180191.html

Amazing, believe me.

Ukrainian artillerymen who use Caesar cannons delivered by France
heir target during this day? Russian artillery parts positioned at 17 kilometers.
"Just after shooting, the artillerymen must leave as soon as possible to avoid being spotted by the enemy," said journalist from France Télévisions, Maryse Burgot, present on the spot.
After each Caesar shooting, Ukrainian surveillance drones fly over targets targets such as Russian tanks destroyed here a few days ago.
According to the commander of this unit which hassix caesars, they allowed the elimination of at least 80 pieces of Russian artillery.
These young Ukrainian artillerymen were trained in France, in the midst of war a month ago, on a military base in the south of France.

So goooood.


Lol @ fake news
Member
Posts: 2,492
Joined: Jan 30 2022
Gold: 0.00
Warn: 10%
Jun 5 2022 01:20pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Jun 5 2022 10:08pm)
Lol @ fake news


So whats up with Severodonetsk that you claimed was taken 2 days ago?
Member
Posts: 3,771
Joined: Sep 29 2021
Gold: 14,158.00
Jun 5 2022 01:31pm
Quote (Lvivz @ Jun 5 2022 01:20pm)
So whats up with Severodonetsk that you claimed was taken 2 days ago?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5avK_adNrE


What's up with Severodonetsk? Our guys are walking around documenting evidence as we speak where Ukrainian armies dug positions in front of apartment buildings.

How does it feel to have an army of cowards that use their own nation's civilians as cover to hide behind?

LOL, no wonder all these Ukrainians want to join Russia
Member
Posts: 2,492
Joined: Jan 30 2022
Gold: 0.00
Warn: 10%
Jun 5 2022 01:35pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Jun 5 2022 10:31pm)
What's up with Severodonetsk? Our guys are walking around documenting evidence as we speak where Ukrainian armies dug positions in front of apartment buildings.

How does it feel to have an army of cowards that use their own nation's civilians as cover to hide behind?

LOL, no wonder all these Ukrainians want to join Russia


Who is "our guys"? You claimed to be from USA yesterday. :wacko:
russians are being fried in Severodonetsk atm, not many are able to crawl let along walk :rofl:
Member
Posts: 3,771
Joined: Sep 29 2021
Gold: 14,158.00
Jun 5 2022 01:35pm
I just watched a video on telegram where a Ukrainian is begging the Russian military not to leave his village. He is breaking down, begging for them not to leave or to give him a rifle.

Apparently, the Ukrainian military made the population of the village get on their knees, including women & kids, and shot a bunch of them at point blank... he witnessed the whole thing.

Typical Ukrainian army savagery. No regard for human life, not even their own nation's people.

This is the kind of horrors that Nazism brings to a country. Ukraine is a picture perfect example of what happens to a country infested with hatred..
Member
Posts: 3,771
Joined: Sep 29 2021
Gold: 14,158.00
Jun 5 2022 01:35pm
Quote (Lvivz @ Jun 5 2022 01:35pm)
Who is "our guys"? You claimed to be from USA yesterday. :wacko:
russians are being fried in Severodonetsk atm, not many are able to crawl let along walk :rofl:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5avK_adNrE


Fake News

They are walking around Severodonetsk calmly documenting your warcrimes ;)
Go Back To Political & Religious Debate Topic List
Prev19609619629639645001Next
Closed New Topic New Poll