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Dec 19 2021 07:41pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 19 2021 04:15pm)
Escalating culture wars and escalating partisanship hasn't exactly worked out for us, historically speaking



And as I said, they were blustering not blasting. They can shriek about benghazi until the cows come home, but as long as its just rhetoric who gives a shit. Not the same as if they sent storm troopers with battering rams to raid the Clinton estate in Marthas Vineyard in the dead of night and seize all her confidential files.



It’s wasn’t talk. It’s was millions in partisan witch hunts. That much like election fraud even left to themselves couldn’t prove
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Dec 19 2021 07:50pm
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It’s wasn’t talk. It’s was millions in partisan witch hunts. That much like election fraud even left to themselves couldn’t prove


You mean when the Al-Qaeda terrorists the US/CIA/State Department/Hillary was supporting in Libya went and did what terrorists do... and slaughtered a bunch of US diplomats?

It's a perfect example of the assbackwards retardation that is US foreign policy.

Support terrorists, and expect there to be no consequences for it.

It's a laughable irony that the diplomat they murdered was in Libya to supply the same terrorists that killed him with weapons.
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You mean when the Al-Qaeda terrorists the US/CIA/State Department/Hillary was supporting in Libya went and did what terrorists do... and slaughtered a bunch of US diplomats?

It's a perfect example of the assbackwards retardation that is US foreign policy.

Support terrorists, and expect there to be no consequences for it.

It's a laughable irony that the diplomat they murdered was in Libya to supply the same terrorists that killed him with weapons.



Then where’s the prosecution. Case in point. A conservative that CANNOT drop Benghazi no matter what. Gives 2 fucks on current QOP conduct. What was it 7 separate investigations? So give us 6 more on the 6th THEN everyone can cry about “witch hunts”
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Dec 19 2021 08:21pm
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Then where’s the prosecution. Case in point. A conservative that CANNOT drop Benghazi no matter what. Gives 2 fucks on current QOP conduct. What was it 7 separate investigations? So give us 6 more on the 6th THEN everyone can cry about “witch hunts”


Difference is, Benghazi was a monumental disastrous fuck-up of US foreign policy that resulted in the death of a very high-ranking US diplomat and all of his body guards.

It was also totally avoidable. The Obama admin declined to send in US marines as backup to his location multiple times, and literally watched him on a live-feed as his body guards were killed one by one. They fought to the death for 2 hours, with the White House literally watching them fight and watching them die in real time. And they did nothing the whole time. Then they made up some weird excuse about some video that didn't make sense? If I recall correctly.

They could've saved him, but they didn't.

Why?

That's a good question.

Did conservatives push the issue at the time for partisan reasons? Probably. But it still pales in comparisons to the utter insanity we're witnessing play out now, which is a witch-hunt on a level not seen since the days of McCarthyism. We are literally witnessing a ruthless and paranoid administration persecute its political enemies, while at the same time using their control over the media to blow things way, way out of proportion. It's pretty gross.
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Woah. So okay guys, I haven't been paying that much attention to politics lately but randomly spotted this article:

https://www.rt.com/usa/543711-insurrection-military-breakdown-war-games/

What the Fuck is this?

The rhetoric is truly off the fucking hook. This shit is crazy as hell. Retired US generals talking about a civil war if Biden wins re-election because it won't be accepted by conservatives? Insurrection in the military that's not loyal to the establishment?

What in the flying holy fuck of fucks are they talking about? Why is all this rhetoric being spouted out from establishment sources all of a sudden?

I also find it interesting that they just assume Biden has a 100% chance of winning re-election.

And then there's Hillary talking about how America will no longer be a Democracy if Trump wins in 2024? What the fuck? How does that make any sense? Isn't that how a democracy functions? People win and people lose, right? It's the natural order of things.

Yeah. Clearly I haven't been paying attention because some real, real weird shit is going on. I don't even know what to make of this shit. To call it "strange" is an understatement. This is truly unhinged, from both Hillary and these apparently retired generals. The country is going insane, I guess?
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The rhetoric is truly off the fucking hook. This shit is crazy as hell. Retired US generals talking about a civil war if Biden wins re-election because it won't be accepted by conservatives? Insurrection in the military that's not loyal to the establishment


Probably because conservatives didn't accept it the first time.
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Dec 19 2021 08:44pm
Quote (theCrossbones @ Dec 19 2021 07:41pm)
It’s wasn’t talk. It’s was millions in partisan witch hunts. That much like election fraud even left to themselves couldn’t prove


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Then where’s the prosecution. Case in point. A conservative that CANNOT drop Benghazi no matter what. Gives 2 fucks on current QOP conduct. What was it 7 separate investigations? So give us 6 more on the 6th THEN everyone can cry about “witch hunts”


What power grabs came out of Benghazi? How many people were locked up? Who was put in prison under penalty of law? Who did they censure, or strip committee seats from or impeach?
Again, I am making the not particularly subtle distinction between rhetoric and action, between words and effects, between bluster and blaster.

And to state this again, there's a huge difference between when a party holds partisan hearings to grandstand impotently, and when an administration sends storm troopers with battering rams to knock down a journalist's door in the middle of the night and seize his confidential sources. There's a difference between Trump denouncing someone on twitter and Biden throwing someone in prison for 5 years. There's a difference between Trump calling Hillary a crook, and Hillary's allies actually spying on Trump and weaponizing the FBI against him. There's a difference between Tea Partiers doubting the legitimacy of Obama's birth certificate, and BLM rioters burning down cities and lynching people.
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Dec 19 2021 08:50pm
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Probably because conservatives didn't accept it the first time.


Hillary is literally saying that if Republicans take back the white house in 2024 it will "be the end of America's democracy."

That's a very bold statement to make, and also a very paranoid and delusional one. So if they win an election fairly, it will be the end of democracy as we know it today?

So are they threatening not to recognize results, then, if the shoe ends up on the other foot?

What sense does this make?

What the hell is going on with this country?
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Dec 19 2021 08:52pm
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Hillary is literally saying that if Republicans take back the white house in 2024 it will "be the end of America's democracy."

That's a very bold statement to make, and also a very paranoid and delusional one. So if they win an election fairly, it will be the end of democracy as we know it today?

So are they threatening not to recognize results, then, if the shoe ends up on the other foot?

What sense does this make?

What the hell is going on with this country?


hmm. Why would someone say democracy is at stake if the party dedicated itself to overturning established democratic ideals wins in 2024?

Who fucking knows. Maybe its because the Republican party has been trying its damndest to establish minority rule in America and has reached the point where they'll overturn election results with a smile on their face if it gets their guy elected.
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Dec 19 2021 08:57pm
Quote (Sioux @ Dec 19 2021 06:52pm)
hmm. Why would someone say democracy is at stake if the party dedicated itself to overturning established democratic ideals wins in 2024?

Who fucking knows. Maybe its because the Republican party has been trying its damndest to establish minority rule in America and has reached the point where they'll overturn election results with a smile on their face if it gets their guy elected.


lol.

Hillary is already hyperventilating over an election which is still 3 years away and this is the best you can come up with? Why is she saying this now? It is extremely, extremely odd.

You do realize Trump didn't have a snowballs chance in hell of overturning anything, right? There was never a threat that it would happen at all, even *if* the election was stolen. In other words, you are resorting to hyperbole and repeating the exaggerations of the media.

Hillary has lost her marbles. I can only imagine that she intends to run in 2024, if she's making such insane comments now.

It will be the end of democracy if my faction ever loses power again, is what she's saying.

Make no mistake. That is a threat.




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