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Nov 21 2019 02:45pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Nov 21 2019 03:12pm)
It's astounding to me that you would accuse someone else of not having read the report, when it's abundantly clear that you haven't even bothered to read a summary of it.


The Report clearly outlines Russian collusion.

Very and explicitly clearly.

Now several people including Roger Stone have been convicted based on Evidence from the report.

The First sentence is 'The Russians interfered with the 2016 elections in sweeping and systemic fashion'

The whole section of pages 44-66 talk explicitly about the Americans involvement, particularly the Trump administration.
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Nov 21 2019 02:47pm
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The Report clearly outlines Russian collusion.

Very and explicitly clearly.

Now several people including Roger Stone have been convicted based on Evidence from the report.

The First sentence is 'The Russians interfered with the 2016 elections in sweeping and systemic fashion'

The whole section of pages 44-66 talk explicitly about the Americans involvement, particularly the Trump administration.


wouldn't working with the russians to undermine the american electoral system, aka collusion, carry treason charges?

because obstruction of justice isn't collusion, perjury isn't collusion. etc.

where are you getting from 1 + 1 to 3?
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Nov 21 2019 03:07pm
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wouldn't working with the russians to undermine the american electoral system, aka collusion, carry treason charges?

because obstruction of justice isn't collusion, perjury isn't collusion. etc.

where are you getting from 1 + 1 to 3?


President can't be cahrged and the corrupt Barr made the formal decision.

You know this

Stop fucking trolling kid.
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Nov 21 2019 03:09pm
Quote (IroningTheMaiden @ Nov 21 2019 03:07pm)
President can't be cahrged and the corrupt Barr made the formal decision.

You know this

Stop fucking trolling kid.


ok, slow down sparky. you said Roger Stone's conviction proves collusion. a few times now.

example:

Quote (IroningTheMaiden @ Nov 21 2019 12:53pm)
Buddy.

The Trump administration, to which Roger Stone was a part of, has been proven to be involved with Russia for influencing the election. I refer you to the Roger Stone case, what he was charged for, what evidence was used, and what he was convicted and will be serving prison time for.

Since Roger STone was part of the Trump administration, That LITERALLY means that Trump was tied to the Russia collusion

Your welcome.


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The Trump administration, to which Roger Stone was a part of, has been proven to be involved with Russia for influencing the election.


Roger Stone was charged with Obstruction and Perjury, not treason.

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I refer you to the Roger Stone case, what he was charged for, what evidence was used, and what he was convicted and will be serving prison time for.


Obstruction and Perjury, not treason.
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Nov 21 2019 03:11pm
It's kind of amazing to me how Schiff is able to paint these coherent narratives at the end of testimony. Pelosi made the right choice with this guy. He's managed these hearings in a great way.
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Nov 21 2019 03:17pm
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It's kind of amazing to me how Schiff is able to paint these coherent narratives at the end of testimony. Pelosi made the right choice with this guy. He's managed these hearings in a great way.


Schiff is a baws


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ok, slow down sparky. you said Roger Stone's conviction proves collusion. a few times now.

example:





Roger Stone was charged with Obstruction and Perjury, not treason.



Obstruction and Perjury, not treason.


Cool, Great, Awesome. But Im talking about Trump administration colluding with Russians to influence the 2016 election. Roger Stone, in the Trump administration, just got convicted on all counts relating to lying about colluding and knowledge of events that Russians did as part of influencing the 2016 election.

So ya, there was Russian Collusion. Doesn't matter how you try to spin english. Its plain as white rice.

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Nov 21 2019 03:18pm
WH meeting was obviously pre-conditioned on investigations.

It's not clear that the aid was part of it. All talk about the aid itself being part of it came from individuals' assumptions.

The release of aid 2 days after complaint leaked can easily be explained by the need for it to be released before the 15th.


Will be interesting to watch the trial if it makes it out of the House.
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Nov 21 2019 03:20pm
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WH meeting was obviously pre-conditioned on investigations.

It's not clear that the aid was part of it. All talk about the aid itself being part of it came from individuals' assumptions.

The release of aid 2 days after complaint leaked can easily be explained by the need for it to be released before the 15th.


Will be interesting to watch the trial if it makes it out of the House.


It is clear, have you been watching all day/the past few weeks?
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Great ending.
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Quote (IroningTheMaiden @ Nov 21 2019 03:17pm)
Schiff is a baws




Cool, Great, Awesome. But Im talking about Trump administration colluding with Russians to influence the 2016 election. Roger Stone, in the Trump administration, just got convicted on all counts relating to lying about colluding and knowledge of events that Russians did.

So ya, there was Russian Collusion. Doesn't matter how you try to spin english. Its plain as white rice.


knowledge of what the russians were doing isn't collusion. lying by Stone to cover his ass and obstruct on behalf of Trump isn't collusion. they're both bad, they're both illegal. and neither has anything to do with russian troll farms which is 95% of what russia did in 2015-2016.

so you're still at 1 + 1 = 3


you do realize that u can admit there is no collusion that was proven while still maintaining BOTH that russia meddled in the election to help trump, AND that trump obstructed to try and cover this up and shut Mueller down, right? you realize this isnt some trap im trying to walk you into. and that these aren't mutually exclusive? right? right?
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