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Mar 6 2018 09:17am
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Might not be a "good look" but it's not illegal.
Also we only saw a clip of that...interview. and it's by CNN, so...

/e I also don't see what it has to do with a subpoena from Mueller. Maybe we should discredit him because of his... receding hairline, too?


I'm not trying to discredit him. He seems to be a really small fish in a really big ocean.

But I certainly recognize the signs that the man needs help. No joking. Alcoholism/addiction disease is a fucking bitch.
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Mar 6 2018 09:25am
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I'm not trying to discredit him. He seems to be a really small fish in a really big ocean.

But I certainly recognize the signs that the man needs help. No joking. Alcoholism/addiction disease is a fucking bitch.




I agree. But there are also people who can drink, and then not drink too.
I'm on my 4th failure at quitting cigarettes, but alcohol doesn't seem to have a hold on me. I can go out to a party and have quite a few, and then not drink at all for 6 months or a year.

I understand, for some that's not the case. But we really don't know if Nunberg is an alcoholic or just has a drink on the way to CNN.

As a news station, CNN should not have asked, unless that was the topic. That's just "below the belt" shyt.
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Mar 6 2018 09:33am
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I agree. But there are also people who can drink, and then not drink too.
I'm on my 4th failure at quitting cigarettes, but alcohol doesn't seem to have a hold on me. I can go out to a party and have quite a few, and then not drink at all for 6 months or a year.

I understand, for some that's not the case. But we really don't know if Nunberg is an alcoholic or just has a drink on the way to CNN.

As a news station, CNN should not have asked, unless that was the topic. That's just "below the belt" shyt.


Here's a longer cut of that interview, which provides more context as to why that was brought up.

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Well he definitely had a few drinks. But again...so what?

He's not at court...he talking to CNN. I'm still not gonna judge someone from a 3 minute clip.
Guy said like 3 times, Trump has some bad helpers. And Erin just keeps asking.

I'm not sticking up for Nunberg, I'm saying we don't know.

It's sorta like me posting a Reuters news article about Nunberg saying he wasn't gonna comply with Mueller's subpoena, and somehow we're talking about whether Nunberg drinks?
A guy who isn't even IN a political position.

Shall we hate on Nicolas Cage, for drinking? (assuming he does).
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I think you may have found the only N Cage pic/joke that I haven't seen. Good one. :D
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/anthonycormier/felix-sater-trump-russia-undercover-us-spy?utm_term=.sk1JJnA7qg#.of0NN2wD4M

Buzzfeed with today's revelation: Longtime Trump ally Felix Sater, man implicated in all those sinister conspiracy theories as a russia go-between.... is actually a US intelligence asset, and how!

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Effectively, he has been a spy — but for the United States. For the first time, BuzzFeed News has verified the surprising sweep of Sater’s undercover work and many of his specific exploits. He worked as an asset for the CIA and the Defense Intelligence Agency (or DIA) and tracked Osama bin Laden. Then he worked for more than a decade for the FBI, providing intel on everything from the mob to North Korea’s drive for nuclear weapons. He still operates as a source for the bureau, according to two current FBI agents.

Specific exploits confirmed by BuzzFeed News include:

He obtained five of the personal satellite telephone numbers for Osama bin Laden before 9/11 and he helped flip the personal secretary to Mullah Omar, then the head of the Taliban and an ally of bin Laden, into a source who provided the location of al-Qaeda training camps and weapons caches.

In 2004, he persuaded a source in Russia’s foreign military intelligence to hand over the name and photographs of a North Korean military operative who was purchasing equipment to build the country’s nuclear arsenal.

Sater provided US intelligence with details about possible assassination threats against former president George W. Bush and secretary of state Colin Powell. Sater reported that jihadists were hiding in a hut outside Bagram Air Base and planned to shoot down Powell’s plane during a January 2002 visit. He later told his handlers that two female al-Qaeda members were trying to recruit an Afghan woman working in the Senate barbershop to poison President Bush or Vice President Dick Cheney.

He went undercover in Cyprus and Istanbul to catch Russian and Ukrainian cybercriminals around 2005. After the FBI set him up with a fake name and background, Sater posed as a money launderer to help nab the suspects for washing funds stolen from US financial institutions.


Now lets go back in time to what media was speculating about Felix Sater just a few months ago:
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-29/felix-sater-is-a-lean-mean-trump-russia-machine

well, so much for that theory

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So you don't think post-2005 he ran into troubles because of his meddling in Russia and Ukraine that he needs to make up for to protect self/family from polonium tea?

What's he been up to for the past 13 years? Trump was a Democrat in 2005, and that wouldn't change until 2009.

He also plays up the opener to this article. As if the purpose of his passport having Jew on it was similar to Nazi Germany. USSR simply required ethnicity on passports, and you got to pick it yourself. He's using some pretty obvious deceit to dismiss criticism.

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So you don't think post-2005 he ran into troubles because of his meddling in Russia and Ukraine that he needs to make up for to protect self/family from polonium tea?


Are you really going to suggest that the most high profile and extremely volatile alleged spy operation in the history of the world would be trusted by Russia to someone they know is a CIA asset who has repeatedly brought them down?
Thats like saying that Navy Seal Team 6 was actually working for Al-Qaeda to work off their 'debt' to the Bin Laden family to protect their own.

If you were vladmir putin and you wanted to set up a manchurian candidate, someone with Sater's record would be the kind of person you want to stay the hell away from
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Are you really going to suggest that the most high profile and extremely volatile alleged spy operation in the history of the world would be trusted by Russia to someone they know is a CIA asset who has repeatedly brought them down?
Thats like saying that Navy Seal Team 6 was actually working for Al-Qaeda to work off their 'debt' to the Bin Laden family to protect their own.

If you were vladmir putin and you wanted to set up a manchurian candidate, someone with Sater's record would be the kind of person you want to stay the hell away from


No it isn't.

"Sater, who recently turned 52, started out as a stockbroker who lost his license after he assaulted a man in a bar brawl. He helped scam investors out of tens of millions of dollars in the mid-1990s. He later emerged as a partner to the Trump Organization and a senior advisor to Trump himself, raising money for the future president and his family on projects such as Trump SoHo, the troubled hotel that nearly led to fraud charges against Ivanka Trump and her brother Donald Jr."

It's like a fucking failed broker and scammer got hooked up with a government job scamming Russians and Ukrainians and now he's trying to save his ass because of his ties to Trump. Embeddeds are often found to be heavily engaged in drug and human trafficking when our agencies set up long term stings. This is really no different. Sater is on his own side here. He's telling a distorted version of his life story to get sympathy and protect the boss.

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