there's God's laws, Jesus' laws, and Man's laws. God's laws are the most important, followed by Jesus' laws. So God ordered the jews special orders. Btw Man's laws have to be followed, but I will break them should the need arrive - Jesus' need or God's need

from the New Testament, 'Acts', 8-18:

Peter told them the whole story: “I was in the city of Joppa praying, and in a trance I saw a vision. I saw something like a large sheet being let down from heaven by its four corners, and it came down to where I was. I looked into it and saw four-footed animals of the earth, wild beasts, reptiles and birds. Then I heard a voice telling me, ‘Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.’

“I replied, ‘Surely not, Lord! Nothing impure or unclean has ever entered my mouth.’

“The voice spoke from heaven a second time, ‘Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.’ This happened three times, and then it was all pulled up to heaven again.

“Right then three men who had been sent to me from Caesarea stopped at the house where I was staying. The Spirit told me to have no hesitation about going with them. These six brothers also went with me, and we entered the man’s house. He told us how he had seen an angel appear in his house and say, ‘Send to Joppa for Simon who is called Peter. He will bring you a message through which you and all your household will be saved.’

“As I began to speak, the Holy Spirit came on them as he had come on us at the beginning. Then I remembered what the Lord had said: ‘John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.’ So if God gave them the same gift he gave us who believed in the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I to think that I could stand in God’s way?”

When they heard this, they had no further objections and praised God, saying, “So then, even to Gentiles God has granted repentance that leads to life.”

This post was edited by the_rest on Jan 12 2017 03:44pm

Not, do we prevail the moral teachings of Jesus.
The rest is for ethnic, philosophical, and scientific studies.

Following the law made the Jews righteous in God's eyes, But the law was actually written to show man that he is a sinner. Jesus came to fulfill the law. We are no longer under the law, but rather we are under Grace.

We are not by grace but by merit.
This is the law:

Matthew 16New International Version (NIV)

27 For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done!

it's grace if you obey God's laws, hell if you don't

Usually it's atheists who pull scripture out of context and distort it.

I thought you didn't believe in God's righteous judgement? You do realize a bunch of people have died and will die before the second coming? Where are they?

This post was edited by IceMage on Jan 18 2017 07:41am

the second coming said: 'then, the dead will come to life'
it didn't say 'all dead will come to life'

This post was edited by the_rest on Jan 18 2017 12:53pm

We start from the beginning that our true homeland is spiritual, not earth.

In my father's house there are many mansions.

Paul still said: we are watched by a multitude of witnesses.

Law of affinity: each person is in a condition of moral evolution.

The spiritual homeland is perfect and absolute, equal to its creator.

Use your good judgment my brother.
How would you feel about seeing your brother, mother, father or children being condemned to eternal hell and you being saved and going to Heaven to live eternity glorifying God.

How human can you live in idleness all your life? We need to work constantly, both material work and spiritual work.

To live the eternity of contemplation would be useless and far from the designs of the creator.



This sounds like injustice ... but ... I respect your understanding.

This post was edited by El Shadday on Jan 19 2017 06:32am

Love it when butthurt christians cry context