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Jun 3 2022 05:53pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Jun 3 2022 04:36pm)
Perhaps you should go back and read your own unreliable sources. The Soviet Famine hit the ENTIRE USSR. Including Russia. It was not "Russia" or "The Russian People" who caused it. The Soviet Union is dead. It's gone. It collapsed. The government is over. Any animosity related to it is long sense dealt with when it comes to the US.

Russia is not the Soviet Union. Russia was merely a region in the Soviet Union. Stalin and Lenin are dead. The entire market economy and system of governance are completely changed. Russia is not the Soviet Union. Russia is not our enemy. Russia has done nothing negative whatsoever to the United States since 1992, and indeed, have been a valued and loyal trade partner, even through all the shifting political winds and temper tantrums. Even past all the US and European maneuvering to box them up against a wall.

Man, I love this "It was done by the Russian People". What? So you're telling me that the people in charge of Russia today, are the same exact people who were in command of the Soviet Union in 1933?

Tell me more. You're starting to sound interesting, in that weird sort of way that most war mongers with absolutely no knowledge of history, geopolitics, or diplomacy is concerned. :)


Do you think Russia should be kicked off the UN Security council then?
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Jun 3 2022 05:58pm
i cant hear it because my headphones crapped out but the title sounds like ................ BIDEN LOSER
Biden says Ukraine might have to give Russia land in ‘negotiated settlement’
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Jun 3 2022 06:36pm
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Do you think Russia should be kicked off the UN Security council then?


No. Only an idiot would believe that would be acceptable.
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Jun 3 2022 07:15pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Jun 3 2022 12:47pm)
1. Retaliatory attack from whom? The likelihood any targeted nation could launch such an attack is not high. The minor detail everyone forgets is that along with the explosion, fallout, etc. each nuclear detonation releases a high level EMP. Ironically, the very targeting systems of any nuke that wouldn't have to be flown in would be fried. So it's back down to nations like the US and China. Your belief that the Biden administration would launch, when it would almost certainly get him thrown out of the whitehouse, and lose democrats most of their seats at every level, is rather naïve. Assuming conventional warfare, no American would support a conventional war against Russia when they haven't struck us first. And no American would believe anything Biden said about "It's about the troops" after both Afghanistan and Benghazi, not to mention how the National Guard Troops were mistreated in DC after the inauguration.

2. Japan wouldn't even think of touching Russia unless China supported it. If the US truly engages Russia, the likelihood of a Chinese takeover of Japan and Taiwan both goes through the roof, and Australia would need to ready it's defenses. China hasn't been quiet about their ambitions, and hostilities with Russia do NOT operate in a vacuum.

3. Wait wait, so now you're saying that the US is so excessively badass that we are going to defeat Russia without using nukes, destroy China as well... Seems to me somebody's been drinking the coolaid. We can't even prevent Portland from rioting for a year straight, and you believe we're going to win a ground war against a nation that has never lost a ground war on it's own soil, and another war with a nation with 1.5 billion people and some of the best new military tech on the planet? Tell us more!


1. This is second most ridiculous thing I've read today (#1 is below). Biden would by publicly hanged if he allowed every capital in Europe to be nuked into oblivion while the United States sat around and jerked itself off.

2. China and Japan are antagonists. History is an important subject, you really should do more to educate yourself. Occupying a country as large and isolated as Japan is very difficult. The United States was only in a position to do it ~80 years ago, late in a global war, after Japan's military resources had been all but exhausted, and at the expected expense of some million American lives. China would find that sort of undertaking orders of magnitude more difficult than Russia is finding Ukraine.

3. What does the US military have to do with Portland? Your hypothetical is that China launches nuclear weapons against the United States. My response is to say that China would be destroyed. Who intends to occupy a nuclear wasteland?
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lefties hoppin mad its not gay pr0n. so now we know why they anti putin
NASA Asks Russia To Stop Filming Pr0n On Space Station
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Jun 3 2022 07:41pm
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1. This is second most ridiculous thing I've read today (#1 is below). Biden would by publicly hanged if he allowed every capital in Europe to be nuked into oblivion while the United States sat around and jerked itself off.

2. China and Japan are antagonists. History is an important subject, you really should do more to educate yourself. Occupying a country as large and isolated as Japan is very difficult. The United States was only in a position to do it ~80 years ago, late in a global war, after Japan's military resources had been all but exhausted, and at the expected expense of some million American lives. China would find that sort of undertaking orders of magnitude more difficult than Russia is finding Ukraine.

3. What does the US military have to do with Portland? Your hypothetical is that China launches nuclear weapons against the United States. My response is to say that China would be destroyed. Who intends to occupy a nuclear wasteland?


1. It's Biden's actions that are leading to the potential for nuclear deployment, genius. And the moment we made any attempt to respond to Russia hitting European NATO nations, they'd counter launch at us. How is this hard for you?

2. Japan is nothing but a footnote to China at this point. China can flood Japan with 3x it's population overnight, should the US remove the 7th Fleet. This is not the Mongols we're talking about. China has far more than enough ships, weapons, and jets. The 7th is the only thing that has prevented it for several years. And the assumption that the Chinese would invade for profit is misguided. The history is long, and China has not forgotten. Would you like to try again?

3. Easily the most boneheaded claim of all. I suppose it's not a large shock, but let's see if we can sort a few things out... First, China can now launch nukes into the US itself from mainland China. That's number one. Number 2 would be that China has the world's largest navy. Three would be that China has 5x the US population. Four would be that the wargame simulations have been run, and it would be absolutely nothing for China to destroy every US base in Asia within minutes of each other. The majority of Wargames has us on the losing side in a conventional war vs China. Our only advantage was Nukes. But at this point, according to Department of Defense estimates, China has some 700 odd deliverable nukes. They have enough delivery systems to shoot over half of them into the US, and they have both subs and bombers that can deliver the rest. It is now completely uncertain if the US could even respond to defend itself, should China opt for an all out nuclear assault. And much of our nuclear defense system is set up for an older time, and the hypersonic delivery systems of the Chinese are not something we're necessarily prepared to shoot down.

But hey, you know everything. So it's no worries. I'm sure we can just keep pumping weapons and money into Ukraine as long as possible until Russia opts to respond, and we'll find out.
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Jun 3 2022 08:23pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Jun 3 2022 05:36pm)
No. Only an idiot would believe that would be acceptable.


The reason I asked is that the seat belonged to the Soviet Union. What right did Russia have to take it if there is no relationship between the Soviet Union and Russia?
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Jun 3 2022 08:30pm
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The reason I asked is that the seat belonged to the Soviet Union. What right did Russia have to take it if there is no relationship between the Soviet Union and Russia?


But maybe Russia wasn't there to take Soviet's old seat. Maybe she was given a new seat for being Russia. Dunno.
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Jun 3 2022 08:32pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Jun 3 2022 09:41pm)
1. It's Biden's actions that are leading to the potential for nuclear deployment, genius. And the moment we made any attempt to respond to Russia hitting European NATO nations, they'd counter launch at us. How is this hard for you?

2. Japan is nothing but a footnote to China at this point. China can flood Japan with 3x it's population overnight, should the US remove the 7th Fleet. This is not the Mongols we're talking about. China has far more than enough ships, weapons, and jets. The 7th is the only thing that has prevented it for several years. And the assumption that the Chinese would invade for profit is misguided. The history is long, and China has not forgotten. Would you like to try again?

3. Easily the most boneheaded claim of all. I suppose it's not a large shock, but let's see if we can sort a few things out... First, China can now launch nukes into the US itself from mainland China. That's number one. Number 2 would be that China has the world's largest navy. Three would be that China has 5x the US population. Four would be that the wargame simulations have been run, and it would be absolutely nothing for China to destroy every US base in Asia within minutes of each other. The majority of Wargames has us on the losing side in a conventional war vs China. Our only advantage was Nukes. But at this point, according to Department of Defense estimates, China has some 700 odd deliverable nukes. They have enough delivery systems to shoot over half of them into the US, and they have both subs and bombers that can deliver the rest. It is now completely uncertain if the US could even respond to defend itself, should China opt for an all out nuclear assault. And much of our nuclear defense system is set up for an older time, and the hypersonic delivery systems of the Chinese are not something we're necessarily prepared to shoot down.

But hey, you know everything. So it's no worries. I'm sure we can just keep pumping weapons and money into Ukraine as long as possible until Russia opts to respond, and we'll find out.


1. This is not how people see it. A majority of Americans support confronting Russia in Ukraine. They just don't blame American power the way that you do.

2. No, it can't. Invading countries is complicated even when they're right next door and very poor, just take a look at Ukraine. Japan is a very rich and isolated island nation with a very large population. Invading Japan would be incredibly costly and difficult.

3. The United States nuclear arsenal dwarfs that of China, both in technology and size. Nobody is predicting that the United States would lose a nuclear war with China, if you can even say that one side can win or lose a nuclear exchange. The war games you're referencing test whether the United States can sufficiently defend Taiwan in a conventional engagement before it is overrun.
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Jun 3 2022 08:36pm
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2. No, it can't. Invading countries is complicated even when they're right next door and very poor, just take a look at Ukraine. Japan is a very rich and isolated island nation with a very large population. Invading Japan would be incredibly costly and difficult.


But couldn't China just surround Japan with subs and war ships and cut her off from the rest of the world? Japan relies on exports from other countries because she doesn't produce a whole lot of stuff.
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