Quote (InsaneBobb @ Jun 3 2022 02:15pm)

Um, you do realize that when people refer to "cannons" while talking about jets, they aren't talking about something from the 12th century. They're referring to Gatling guns. And as a matter of fact yes, it does look like there are bullet holes there.

That article is honestly interesting. They're basically saying, "We have no reliable witnesses, no black box confirmation, nothing to pin this on Russia. But sometime in the approximate time period of this, somewhere within a few hundred miles or so, we saw a vehicle with one less missile than it's capacity, so we're pretty sure they blew it down."

At any rate, no dog in this argument. Just figured I'd point out the absurdity of it all. "A passenger jet was shot down. After it crashed, we were able to piece almost 20% of it back together! Based on that, we have what appears to be suspiciously bullet shaped shrapnel holes in the hull. Yep, it was a Russian missile. Just one. Case solved." :rofl:

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Jun 3 2022 02:15pm)

Your references are the New York Times and Washinton Post, who has been openly calling for the US Military to put boots on the ground to retake both the Donbas and Crimea for Ukraine since 2014? You need to perform a bias check on your sources, my man. :)

Quote (chopstickz777 @ Jun 3 2022 10:17pm)

Pics of the javelin listings on the darkweb have been made public. The listings are real dude, your boys are selling them off for quick cash.

A Syrian militant from Idlib province posted on social media about this as well. He flew to Ukraine with 50K and returned back to Syria with a bunch of anti-tank weapons.

It's crazy, but everybody who still has a brain knew this would happen.

Quote (Santara @ Jun 3 2022 10:19pm)

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Are you fucking serious. That's a seriously wide shot pattern for a aircraft-mounted machine gun. That's an air-burst missile pattern.

Quote (Santara @ Jun 3 2022 01:19pm)

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Are you fucking serious. That's a seriously wide shot pattern for a aircraft-mounted machine gun. That's an air-burst missile pattern.

At least my fucking references aren't "the Saker" and "Moon over Alabama."

Quote (chopstickz777 @ Jun 3 2022 10:17pm)

Pics of the javelin listings on the darkweb have been made public. The listings are real dude, your boys are selling them off for quick cash.

A Syrian militant from Idlib province posted on social media about this as well. He flew to Ukraine with 50K and returned back to Syria with a bunch of anti-tank weapons.

It's crazy, but everybody who still has a brain knew this would happen.

Quote (Santara @ 3 Jun 2022 12:19)

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Are you fucking serious. That's a seriously wide shot pattern for a aircraft-mounted machine gun. That's an air-burst missile pattern.

Quote (Santara @ 3 Jun 2022 12:22)

Hey Bob, here's wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

wHy WoUlD rUsSiA cOmMiT a GeNoCiDe AgAiNsT uKrAiNe?

Quote (Lvivz @ Jun 3 2022 01:21pm)

btw how come russia allows taliban terrorists into moscow for visits lol? Seems like they found their friends, same mentality.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Jun 3 2022 10:24pm)

Interesting. Care to post your credentials as a forensic ballistics expert? Because when I search the event, I'm seeing experts argue exactly what I just stated, I see experts argue what you've stated, and I see a half a dozen other ideas as well.

I'm not even prepared to say Ukraine shot it down. Just saying that the article surf posted is garbage and reads exactly as I described. Work on slightly more reliable sources.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Jun 3 2022 02:15pm)

Um, you do realize that when people refer to "cannons" while talking about jets, they aren't talking about something from the 12th century. They're referring to Gatling guns. And as a matter of fact yes, it does look like there are bullet holes there.

That article is honestly interesting. They're basically saying, "We have no reliable witnesses, no black box confirmation, nothing to pin this on Russia. But sometime in the approximate time period of this, somewhere within a few hundred miles or so, we saw a vehicle with one less missile than it's capacity, so we're pretty sure they blew it down."

At any rate, no dog in this argument. Just figured I'd point out the absurdity of it all. "A passenger jet was shot down. After it crashed, we were able to piece almost 20% of it back together! Based on that, we have what appears to be suspiciously bullet shaped shrapnel holes in the hull. Yep, it was a Russian missile. Just one. Case solved." :rofl: