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Nov 21 2019 01:00pm
Quote (IroningTheMaiden @ Nov 21 2019 12:53pm)
Buddy.

The Trump administration, to which Roger Stone was a part of, has been proven to be involved with Russia for influencing the election. I refer you to the Roger Stone case, what he was charged for, what evidence was used, and what he was convicted and will be serving prison time for.

Since Roger STone was part of the Trump administration, That LITERALLY means that Trump was tied to the Russia collusion

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Stone, a political operative and Trump's friend, was found guilty of all seven counts brought by the Justice Department, a victory for special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation. Stone was found guilty of five counts of lying to Congress, one of witness tampering and one of obstructing a congressional committee proceeding. Among other things, he misled Congress about his communications with Trump campaign officials in 2016, the jury unanimously decided.


so basically 1 + 1 = 3

trump has been concretely connected to obstruction, perjury, etc.

there are no ties between Trump personally and Russia. we have Stone's perjury and Trump Jr inviting a supposed russian national to a meeting where nothing of substance has been proven has been passed between russia and the trump campaign.

again, trump obstructed, stone commited perjury, and russia 100% meddled to help trump.

none of that proves a coordinated effort between trump and russia, aka collusion, rather just a common goal they both worked towards. it does prove Trump tried to potentially cover up russian interference by shutting down Mueller, but even that isn't collusion.

and, again, 95% of "what russia did" was social media troll farms. which has ZERO connection to Trump. not even any implications he was involved in that.

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Nov 21 2019 01:05pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 21 2019 02:00pm)
so basically 1 + 1 = 3

trump has been concretely connected to obstruction, perjury, etc.

there are no ties between Trump personally and Russia. we have Stone's perjury and Trump Jr inviting a supposed russian national to a meeting where nothing of substance has been proven has been passed between russia and the trump campaign.

again, trump obstructed, stone commited perjury, and russia 100% meddled to help trump.

none of that proves a coordinated effort between trump and russia, aka collusion, rather just a common goal they both worked towards. it does prove Trump tried to potentially cover up russian interference by shutting down Mueller, but even that isn't collusion.

and, again, 95% of "what russia did" was social media troll farms. which has ZERO connection to Trump. not even any implications he was involved in that.





So....Stone got indicted for nothing directly pertain to Trump colluding with Russia. Manafort got indicted for nothing pertaining to Trump colluding with Russia. Etc., etc., etc.

/e Likewise this does not infer that Trump was trying to cover up Russian interference.

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Nov 21 2019 01:06pm
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So....Stone got indicted for nothing directly pertain to Trump colluding with Russia. Manafort got indicted for nothing pertaining to Trump colluding with Russia. Etc., etc., etc.


pertaining to collusion, no. pertaining to the trump campaign, yes.

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/e Likewise this does not infer that Trump was trying to cover up Russian interference.


its doesnt prove it, but he tried to obstruct an investigation into russian interference. so it's evidence, not proof.

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Nov 21 2019 01:08pm
And Fiona just verified that Ukraine was interfering in the 2016 election.


/e Any second now, Schiff is gonna shoot Fiona Hill.

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Nov 21 2019 01:09pm
Quote (Brian_D @ 21 Nov 2019 19:58)
The GOP is the definition of arrogance. They assume the American people are stupid enough to believe their lies.. That sounds pretty arrogant to me.


That's not arrogance, that's decades worth of practical experience. XD :rofl:

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Nov 21 2019 01:11pm
Fiona Hill basically destroys the "but Ukraine meddled too!" argument. It's an idiotic comparison.
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Nov 21 2019 01:12pm
Quote (IceMage @ Nov 21 2019 02:11pm)
Fiona Hill basically destroys the "but Ukraine meddled too!" argument. It's an idiotic comparison.




And yet we both speak English.

/e Now, Ratcliffe tears apart Holmes.

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Nov 21 2019 01:15pm
Mr. Nunes opening speech Is something unacceptable here...
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Nov 21 2019 01:28pm
So we've come to the point where Republicans are just yelling incomprehensible statements and not allowing witnesses to answer any of the accusations. They've given up.
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Nov 21 2019 01:30pm
Quote (IceMage @ Nov 21 2019 02:28pm)
So we've come to the point where Republicans are just yelling incomprehensible statements and not allowing witnesses to answer any of the accusations. They've given up.




Translation: Turner took his 5 minutes to explain to the witnesses, and the American public, the difference between hearsay and evidence. A point I might add that obviously needs pointed out.

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