Quote (InsaneBobb @ Jun 3 2022 01:10pm)
And this is where nobody can take you seriously. What genocide is Russia carrying out against Ukraine? Nearly all the fighting has been in the Donbas region. That region is independent. It is NOT Ukraine. Every single person in Donbas operating under the Ukrainian government's orders is an invader.
I get that you don't like that. But the region has spoken. Ukraine has spent the last 8 years perpetrating genocide against the ethnic Russians of Donbas. Russia is attempting to help them get the rats out of their republics.
For you to say it's "the right thing to do" to arm and fund a government to commit genocide against the free people of a small republic says you have no principles, full stop.
That land does not belong to Ukraine. This particular "Ukraine" was formed after the 2014 revolution. At that time, it lost control of Donbas, who declared as two independent republics, and Crimea, who declared as a third. They are all three self-governing, though Crimea has some help from Russia, in order to prevent further incursions from Ukraine.
Attempting to say, "Yeah, we know we just took power via violent revolution, but even though we're now a new government for a newly reformed nation, we expect that we're going to get to keep everything the prior government had. Um... No? That's not how revolutions work. That's NEVER how revolutions work.
It's not just me.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/05/27/genocide-ukraine-russia-analysis/https://www.npr.org/2022/04/28/1095272683/canada-russia-genocide-ukraineRussia is systematically murdering Ukrainians, dispersing them across Russia so as to filter them into other populations and erode their culture and language, raping them, mass executions, and torture.
The fighting isn't limited to the Donbas, it was widespread until Russia realized it bit off more than it can chew, but it's still attempting to advance north from Crimea and southwest from the Donbas. It's a naked land grab and nothing more. If you take Russia at their word, you're awfully gullible.
Ukraine spent 8 years fighting a Spetsnaz-incited insurgency, not a war on ethnic Russians.
