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Jan 6 2022 02:35am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jan 6 2022 12:03am)
Just learned that the hospital I work for has over 1000 employees out because of Covid symptoms.

They're 100% vaccinated or they were fired in September.

I think this shit is gonna get real bad real soon...


Interesting.
Im just interested in response in here, if your exact quote was posted by lets say TiStuff. Somehow I have a feeling it would be called another conspiracy, lie, or a statement trying to be proved by unreliable source.
Not so long ago, sasauge6k laughed and flamed me for saying double vaxed are picking up covid, calling me a lying fascist
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Jan 6 2022 02:35am
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17% lmao what kinda made up bs is that.
I never said the total death rate decreased lmao?. It goes up roughly 1% per year and it only went up 1% in 2020 and 2021 just like every other year, you can find that on any legitimate total death toll tracking website that isn’t throwing covid in your face.

The only reason you’d see more patients this year in a hospital is because the surrounding hospitals are closed or not accepting patients due to staffing so they end up at your hospital
But in average total population of patients in USA , theres not more people in the hospital than other years.



The death toll went up 16% in 2020 compared to 2019. I don't know where you got a 1% increase but you're just making up numbers
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Jan 6 2022 02:42am
Quote (Sioux @ Jan 6 2022 02:35am)
The death toll went up 16% in 2020 compared to 2019. I don't know where you got a 1% increase but you're just making up numbers



Thats age-adjusted

Not crude rates
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Jan 6 2022 02:47am
Quote (KRR @ Jan 6 2022 02:33am)
17% lmao what kinda made up bs is that.
I never said the total death rate decreased lmao?. It goes up roughly 1% per year and it only went up 1% in 2020 and 2021 just like every other year, you can find that on any legitimate total death toll tracking website that isn’t throwing covid in your face.

The only reason you’d see more patients this year in a hospital is because the surrounding hospitals are closed or not accepting patients due to staffing so they end up at your hospital
But in average total population of patients in USA , theres not more people in the hospital than other years.


"Patients in hospitals" is a garbage metric. They shut down a massive number of services for a significant portion of both years. You're being very dishonest.

Deaths per 100k

2014: 724.6
2015: 733.1
....
2018: 731.9
2019: 715.2
2020: 835.4

You're just making shit up lol. You can find age-adjusted mortality rates by the year just by searching "Mortality in the United States, 20XX".

Quote (KRR @ Jan 6 2022 02:42am)
Thats age-adjusted

Not crude rates


You realize the population doesn't magically add 15% deaths from one year of age, right? Like, that could be part of it, but there's no reason the age-adjusted number should go up by 15% a year when it usually goes up 1% a year, right?

The age-adjusted number is the one you should use when drawing conclusions about, ya know, the state of the country. Because we had a pandemic that greatly increased the yearly mortality?

Also, pretty funny how you cite "It goes up by about 1% a year" and then say "that's not the crude numbers". The 1% a year you are referencing is also the age adjusted mortality rate :rofl:

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Jan 6 2022 03:02am
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Jan 6 2022 03:10am
Just for fun looked up the crude death rate data. Percent changes from the previous year is easily calculable.

2010 7.995 1.20%
2011 8.073 0.98%
2012 8.102 0.36%
2013 8.215 1.39%
2014 8.237 0.27%
2015 8.44 2.46%
2016 8.493 0.63%
2017 8.638 1.71%
2018 8.678 0.46%
2019 8.7 0.25%
2020 8.95 2.87%

Even if we just take the crude death rate we can see that 2020 was the largest jump in over 10 years, and came off the back of two of the lowest years. It's probably the highest jump since 1990 since it ws decreasing until 2010.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Jan 6 2022 03:11am
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Jan 6 2022 03:11am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jan 6 2022 02:47am)
"Patients in hospitals" is a garbage metric. They shut down a massive number of services for a significant portion of both years. You're being very dishonest.

Deaths per 100k

2014: 724.6
2015: 733.1
....
2018: 731.9
2019: 715.2
2020: 835.4

You're just making shit up lol. You can find age-adjusted mortality rates by the year just by searching "Mortality in the United States, 20XX".



You realize the population doesn't magically add 15% deaths from one year of age, right? Like, that could be part of it, but there's no reason the age-adjusted number should go up by 15% a year when it usually goes up 1% a year, right?

The age-adjusted number is the one you should use when drawing conclusions about, ya know, the state of the country. Because we had a pandemic that greatly increased the yearly mortality?

Also, pretty funny how you cite "It goes up by about 1% a year" and then say "that's not the crude numbers". The 1% a year you are referencing is also the age adjusted mortality rate :rofl:

More boomers died to skew that , who cares it isn’t the actual total that went up 16%

Take a look at your patients demographics and you’ll see most probably aren’t even from your area. They’re likely from counties far away or even states away whose hospitals shut down or taking in way less patients due to staffing

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Jan 6 2022 03:13am
Quote (KRR @ Jan 6 2022 03:11am)
More boomers died to skew that , who cares

Take a look at your patients demographics and you’ll see most probably aren’t even from your area. They’re likely from counties far away or even states away whose hospitals shut down or taking in way less patients due to staffing


See my post. Even if you take the crude death rate you can clearly see it was a significant jump compared to even the previous 10 years (likely 30 years but I only went back to 2010), with only one other year coming close.

Cool story bro? Almost like we've had to radically reallocate medical resources because there's a god damn pandemic.
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Jan 6 2022 03:27am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jan 6 2022 03:13am)
See my post. Even if you take the crude death rate you can clearly see it was a significant jump compared to even the previous 10 years (likely 30 years but I only went back to 2010), with only one other year coming close.

Cool story bro? Almost like we've had to radically reallocate medical resources because there's a god damn pandemic.



Just telling sides of a story that isn’t included in the news lol. If they were honest and said “hospitals are full but mainly because lack of medical resources and staff at rural hospitals” rather than omg hospital full entirely because of covid you’re going to die in the parking lot because there’s no physical beds.
Naa there’s beds just no staff cause they quit because hospitals aren’t paying employees more despite them doing twice as much work and mandating shifts because nurse and dr. Karen didn’t want vaxxed. and then forcing vaccines that staff witness haven’t reduced covid #’s at all since cases are higher now than even before vaccines came out
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Jan 6 2022 04:36am
Quote (Bazi @ Jan 6 2022 02:02am)


We are also “100% vaccinated”


such a thing does not even exist, take your 4th dose
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#9400
Jan 6 2022 05:55am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 5 2022 09:01pm)
Is that a strange outlier? Whenever I read on this issue, journalists or the interviewed experts always stress that vaccination rates are way above average among healthcare workers and doctors. ;)






If certain hospitals are at the capacity limit implied by their staffing, they are at their capacity limit, period. Empty beds for which you have no doctors and nurses are useless. If beds were the bottleneck, the military could erect tens of thousands of camp beds in no time.


That floor is most certainly an outlier. They have a lot of traveler’s to be fair and those nurses are … special

Physician staff is 99%

But still nursing staff is not 100%. Guarantee you have at least 1/10 that filed a religious exemption

Which was hypocritical to be granted because the majority whom have filed still took the flu vaccine

Quote (Melatonina @ Jan 6 2022 04:36am)
such a thing does not even exist, take your 4th dose


Gladly will next year

This post was edited by Bazi on Jan 6 2022 05:56am
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