Quote (Surfpunk @ 3 Jun 2022 11:06)
That doesn't change the validity of my point whatsoever. Whether Russia adheres to the rules or not doesn't make it any less of a war crime to execute POWs.
How is it a crime if the rule doesn't exist? We're right back to my original question: Why should Russia follow your rules?
I love the idea that you can magically state, "I'm going to make this rule whether you like it or not." Then you're going to whine and cry when a sovereign nation who neither acknowledges or cares about your rules turns around and shits on them.
Ukraine set the terms of war. Thus far, Russia is abiding by them. You have zero right whatsoever to attempt to hold Russia to a higher standard than Ukraine. That simply makes you a shill.
Quote (Santara @ 3 Jun 2022 11:09)
Russia is engaged in a genocide against Ukraine, of course we are right to support them. Not because it's in our national security interest, but because it's the right thing to do.
What does Ukraine get for letting Russia steal land from them? It only encourages Russia to do it again, like they've done to their neighbors for a century.
And this is where nobody can take you seriously. What genocide is Russia carrying out against Ukraine? Nearly all the fighting has been in the Donbas region. That region is independent. It is NOT Ukraine. Every single person in Donbas operating under the Ukrainian government's orders is an invader.
I get that you don't like that. But the region has spoken. Ukraine has spent the last 8 years perpetrating genocide against the ethnic Russians of Donbas. Russia is attempting to help them get the rats out of their republics.
For you to say it's "the right thing to do" to arm and fund a government to commit genocide against the free people of a small republic says you have no principles, full stop.
That land does not belong to Ukraine. This particular "Ukraine" was formed after the 2014 revolution. At that time, it lost control of Donbas, who declared as two independent republics, and Crimea, who declared as a third. They are all three self-governing, though Crimea has some help from Russia, in order to prevent further incursions from Ukraine.
Attempting to say, "Yeah, we know we just took power via violent revolution, but even though we're now a new government for a newly reformed nation, we expect that we're going to get to keep everything the prior government had. Um... No? That's not how revolutions work. That's NEVER how revolutions work.
This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Jun 3 2022 12:15pm