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Jan 3 2022 01:12pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Jan 3 2022 12:38pm)
the narrative is cracking and the CDC decision to cut the quarantine time to 5 days without a test is the capitulation

it was a strictly political decision when places like new york had no subway operators anymore

we are at the "let it run, but lets somehow try to save face" stage

the pandemic is almost over, all measures still in place are not justifiable anymore


yeah that in particular seems like a jarring concession from people who know they are in the wrong on the science but can't backtrack politically.
Its not just about saving face, its about refusing to admit the people they disagreed with so vehemently could have been right
China had reason to save face when it came to the Wuhan laboratory, but American liberals had no stake in China's reputation and yet wanted to ban anyone on social media who said WIV could be responsible.

The virulence in politics will still remain an epidemic even when the pandemic ends
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that is very heartbreaking.
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Jan 3 2022 03:11pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Jan 3 2022 02:46pm)


Bet it wouldn't had a opportunity for that to happen if wasn't a foreign invader.
We need a public service campaign to warn them.
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Jan 3 2022 05:40pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 3 Jan 2022 18:44)
In Portugal, with 89% of the total population fully vaccinated, almost 90% of UCI Covid patients are unvaccinated.


The majority of cases in the ICU are holdouts from the Delta wave and have been there for weeks.



Quote (Goomshill @ 3 Jan 2022 18:05)
better question: What's more dangerous, Omicron Covid or Covid vaccines?
There are a significant amount of deaths we know to be caused by covid vaccines. There are very few deaths linked to the Omicron variant, with unsure causal relationship. We don't get to look up 'linked' deaths to covid vaccines or self-reports like VAERS because those are now forbidden, verboten, haraam, thoughtcrime, etc.
I'd say there's a serious case to be made for the relative serious adverse event mitigation effectiveness, personal safety and community impact of the current regimen of vaccine boosters, compared to omicron crowding out more serious variants, preventing their spread and giving people more effective immune responses.

There might be a solid argument for the intentional spread of omicron at this point. South Africa is nearly finished with its wave and their deaths were the lowest level since the pandemic began, ebbing into background noise and dubious causal relationships.

Do you have credible sources for this? More specifically: can you quantify "significant amount"?
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Jan 3 2022 05:43pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 3 Jan 2022 23:40)
The majority of cases in the ICU are holdouts from the Delta wave and have been there for weeks.


And ?
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Quote (tugofpeace @ Jan 3 2022 08:04pm)
Anyone with even a little bit of critical thinking capability can see this ruse for what it is, but then again, a large majority of the population doesn't critically think. Hopefully it doesn't last much longer and we can get back to normal.

All this hatred against the unvaccinated despite the two variants delta and omicron coming from third world countries in remote areas, and the vaccine not even preventing transmission, and Fauci himself saying on live television that unvaccinated and vaccinated carry the same viral load, these people are hilarious for believing their vaccine somehow makes them more noble than those without it.


there are people in germany who will blame unvaxxed folks here for omicron, when it came south africa/botswana so.....

collective madness
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Jan 3 2022 05:56pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Jan 3 2022 05:54pm)
there are people in germany who will blame unvaxxed folks here for omicron, when it came south africa/botswana so.....

collective madness


Still not convinced covid is any more than the flu/cold.
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Jan 3 2022 06:22pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 4 Jan 2022 00:43)
And ?


You brought up an empirical observation as evidence for the efficacy of the vaccines. While correct in its own right, this empirical finding does not hold up for omicron, the variant which will be dominant over the coming months.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 4 Jan 2022 00:22)
You brought up an empirical observation as evidence for the efficacy of the vaccines. While correct in its own right, this empirical finding does not hold up for omicron, the variant which will be dominant over the coming months.


You realize the GAP could be bigger in 3rd shot vs 0 shot ?
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