Quote (tugofpeace @ Jan 3 2022 03:46am)

Again:

Attacking circle of mamas due to its name/peer reviewed status? This is machiavellian behavior and has zero merit in a scientific discussion. I would suggest attacking the actual data in that pdf instead.

Any time you attack the medium and not the message is admission that you have no argument.



You know damn well the information in that pdf isnt people claiming they got abducted by aliens and got covid in a spaceship.

Quote (Sioux @ Jan 3 2022 03:44am)

Drugs get pulled for safety all the time. You think it would be career suicide? If a researcher came forward with definitive proof of how unsafe you think the vaccines are they'd be the most famous scientist in the world. Science loves a contrarian when they're right. Nothing any of you dumb little brained conspiracy theorists has ever held up has stood up to any basic level scrutiny. Like you going on and on about rising covid mortality post vax is really just a case of someone too dumb to know how to add and subtract and spinning up a potential conspiracy theory.

If someone had actual proof, they'd win the Nobel. They'd be a full professor at Harvard tomorrow. But the reality is the vaccines have been dosed hundreds of millions of times now and everyone is fine.

Quote (toyake @ Jan 3 2022 03:49am)

I already attacked the data, VAERS isn't verified by anything, it's essentially a yelp review.

Quote (toyake @ Jan 3 2022 12:49am)

I already attacked the data, VAERS isn't verified by anything, it's essentially a yelp review.

Quote (tugofpeace @ Jan 3 2022 03:50am)

Did you even look past the first page? Try page four and onwards.

If your mom or dad got the vaccine and died 3 days later, thats a natural death to you?

Quote (Nibthebarb @ Jan 3 2022 03:52am)

Yeah what a shame that corporations that directly benefit from the government enforced, liability-free sale of their product can't "verify" free peoples' one significant way of putting a check on that unholy setup

Quote (Nibthebarb @ Jan 3 2022 03:52am)

Yeah what a shame that corporations that directly benefit from the government enforced, liability-free sale of their product can't "verify" free peoples' one significant way of putting a check on that unholy setup

Quote (toyake @ Jan 3 2022 03:57am)

Did you have a stroke while typing the second half of your sentence?

Killing off your consumers is bad for profit, they want you to live long enough to buy viagra and a host of other meds that you'll need in old age.

Quote (tugofpeace @ Jan 3 2022 12:58am)

You can tell that many of these vaccine pushers just dont have the mental fortitude to admit they might have been wrong. The amount of mental gymnastics they perform to defend the vaccine.. unreal. Only thing they can do is double down.

Quote (toyake @ Jan 3 2022 03:56am)

Yeah it's a bunch of "got the shot aug 3rd, died aug 27th of XYZ"

Hate to break it to you, but people died before the vaccine, and they continue to die without getting the vaccine. Unless you can prove cause and effect then you're going to get laughed at for using unverified memes as evidence. This is the whole "did they die of covid or with covid" meme that antivaxers use.

Quote (tugofpeace @ Jan 2 2022 08:39pm)

Food for thought:

Harvard educated doctor on the Illinois public board of health (42 second video), dated 4/27/2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw9Ci2PZKZg

Bullshit, you say? She doesn't know what she's talking about? Article proving what she said is right, in another state, dated 7/8/2021 (over a year later):

https://sanjosespotlight.com/santa-clara-county-revises-total-covid-deaths-by-over-20/

Still skeptical? Italy clarifies that 97% of their COVID deaths were in people with 1 comorbidity or greater:

https://www.epicentro.iss.it/en/coronavirus/bollettino/Report-COVID-2019_5_october_2021.pdf