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Jun 3 2022 12:58am
Quote (chopstickz777 @ 3 Jun 2022 02:15)
Breaking:

Tribunal over Ukrainian warcrimes will be held in Mariupol. It will be called the Mariupol Tribunal. In addition to the Ukrainian Nazis who committed warcrimes in Mariupol, foreign mercenaries and NATO instructors will also be tried there.


This is how "denazification" in Ukraine looks.
City in ruins, people dead, carpents "liberated"

https://mobile.twitter.com/Gerashchenko7/status/1530872627501449216
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Quote (chopstickz777 @ Jun 2 2022 07:15pm)
Breaking:

Tribunal over Ukrainian warcrimes will be held in Mariupol. It will be called the Mariupol Tribunal. In addition to the Ukrainian Nazis who committed warcrimes in Mariupol, foreign mercenaries and NATO instructors will also be tried there.


This whole back and forth only makes sense if Ukraine's goal was the cynically dissuade their own troops from surrendering for fear of reprisals.
Ukraine held these farcical war crime trials while the war is still ongoing, persecuting POWs publicly. Knowing Russia would retaliate tit-for-tat, as escalations go.
It would be really hard for Russia to sit back and watch Russian POWs be subject to war crime trials and not do the same to Ukrainians. They could plausibly have resisted the urge out of pragmatism for what follows, but Russia is too bitterly retaliatory
So Russia does the same to the Ukrainians, and what's the net result? Soldiers on both sides are less likely to surrender, fearing reprisals and mistreatment by the other side.
Which favors the currently entrenched and losing Ukrainian position. They want their troops to fight to the death in hopeless battles instead of aiming for any tactical victories, just to slow down the Russian advance.

It sure does make a mockery of the entire concept of international criminal courts. The Nuremberg Trials were held knowing the taint of victor's justice, and the prosecutors took strides to grant reasonably fair trials and several high level Nazis were exonerated. These meanwhile are just show trials at wartime, for no purpose but strategic propaganda and manipulation. The Ukrainians started it, the Russians acted in kind.
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Jun 3 2022 01:40am
Ukraine is too big for russia, once inflection point is reached the agressors will slowly get fucked by decreasing capacity while it will increase on the other side. Will take time tho, so it's as much possible that Putin sack of shit get ousted or suddently dies from drinking a cup a tea.

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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 3 Jun 2022 09:40)
Ukraine is too big for russia, once inflection point is reached the agressors will slowly get fucked by decreasing capacity while it will increase on the other side. Will take time tho, so it's as much possible that Putin sack of shit get ousted or suddently dies from drinking a cup a tea.


Remember the long table he sit with Macron?
Even if Macron would want to infect him with covid or something like that, it doesnt work from such a distance. Putin is very careful. Anyway we dont know if next Putin will be peaceful.
Im not optimistic, and not pesimistic either about the war.
The sides in this conflict are equal. Obviously Russia is bigger country, but Ukraine is more motivated and has friends.
It could be every single of us, that makes a difference.
Example way of helping could be of course sending or raising some money to UA government. They are tight on bugdet as war needs money and economy was damaged in the war.
Another way in my opinion is to talk to people, to friends, to family. Governments are under pressure of people who say: "fuck Ukraine, give your citizens free money instead of helping the Ukraine". If we could convince some people in our neighbourhod that its right thing to help, that the war can potentially spread to more countries, that would give our governments some options to help.
The war is live, we can all help...
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Jun 3 2022 02:43am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jun 3 2022 09:40am)
Ukraine is too big for russia, once inflection point is reached the agressors will slowly get fucked by decreasing capacity while it will increase on the other side. Will take time tho, so it's as much possible that Putin sack of shit get ousted or suddently dies from drinking a cup a tea.


This aint 1812 and Putin aint Napoleon you idiot
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Jun 3 2022 03:19am
some reports outlining 2-4 more weeks until Russia has completel control of those areas in the east it is currently focusing on. I would imagine Russia then seeking to negotiate with Ukraine, Ukraine flat saying no and then the question is what will Russia do next.
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Quote (Ironfister @ Jun 3 2022 01:50am)
Trying to figure out what that means.

Russian B is W, C is S, N is I, and the first letter in second word is Ł.
So that text reads as:
Wosim Łet
Still no idea, can you translate for me?


Eight years.

For all time from 2014 to 2022 when Russian Spetsnaz troops were fomenting a rebellion in the Donbas, and muppets like Ivan pretend that Ukraine fighting back was "murdering civilians in the Donbas for eight years."
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Quote (Santara @ Jun 3 2022 11:23am)
Eight years.

For all time from 2014 to 2022 when Russian Spetsnaz troops were fomenting a rebellion in the Donbas, and muppets like Ivan pretend that Ukraine fighting back was "murdering civilians in the Donbas for eight years."


still ignoring the expansion of NATO in europe

what the fuck you expect?

again: how would you react if mexico or canada joined a military party wirh russia? ignore it? never...

blaming russia for doing business outside their country for few years while you faggots enslave the whole world for centuries...

youre from KKK or what? i dont get it how people can hate other nations so much for not wanting to get enslaved by a warmonging country?

must be the superior jeans :wacko:

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Jun 3 2022 04:34am
Quote (ferdia @ 3 Jun 2022 11:19)
some reports outlining 2-4 more weeks until Russia has completel control of those areas in the east it is currently focusing on. I would imagine Russia then seeking to negotiate with Ukraine, Ukraine flat saying no and then the question is what will Russia do next.


depends what "those areas" means. i doubt that russia will have captured Kramatorsk/Slovjansk in 2-4 weeks.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 3 2022 11:34am)
depends what "those areas" means. i doubt that russia will have captured Kramatorsk/Slovjansk in 2-4 weeks.


so a good bit more stuff still to happen.
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