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Jan 3 2022 02:25am
Quote (tugofpeace @ Jan 3 2022 12:22am)
So at worst, I might have breathing problems for 3-6 months?

What happened to the brain damage and heart problems?

Long covid to me implies life long debilitating reactions.. none of that seems like it??

Fwiw many of my older family member got the disease, and they're all fine. I'm talking 45-60 year olds with piss poor diet, no exercise, etc



You read all that and missed the memory problems fatigue and concentration issues with long covid huh
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Jan 3 2022 02:26am
Quote (toyake @ Jan 3 2022 03:21am)
Where is your data that vaccines are significantly harmful? Bitchute?

In order to have a bad reaction from covid you need to, get covid. See how easy that was?



I can post many sources but I'm going to bed. Try this link for example, 276 pages of clearly documented adverse reactions. Hopefully you arent one of those people that says every single person in this link just happened to get a life threatening condition or died within days of the vaccine of their own health issues

https://circleofmamas.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/CompilationNov2021.pdf

Why havent I gotten covid then? Its been two years?

Also its funny that you say I just have to get covid. If you made a statement like that after I posted what actually has to happen to get covid, you are arguing in bad faith and not using logic which makes it useless responding to you in the future.

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Jan 3 2022 02:29am
Quote (Sioux @ Jan 3 2022 03:25am)
You read all that and missed the memory problems fatigue and concentration issues with long covid huh



And how exactly do you quantify those symptoms?

"Damn I forgot my car keys in the office, must be long covid!"
"Ugh cardio is so hard, I probably have long covid!"
"Oh geez I'm so tired after eating all this junk food, must be long covid!"
"Oh god I cant concentrate anymore, must be long covid and not the constant rewiring of my brains attention span due to social media!"

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Quote (tugofpeace @ Jan 3 2022 12:26am)
I can post many sources but I'm going to bed. Try this link for example, 400ish pages of clearly documented adverse reactions. Hopefully you arent one of those people that says every single person in this link just happened to get a life threatening condition or died within days of the vaccine of their own health issues

https://circleofmamas.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/CompilationNov2021.pdf

Why havent I gotten covid then? Its been two years?



You didn't like a peer reviewed lancet published article that used a survey but you're taking your adverse reaction data from circleofmamas.com

Ok...

Quote (tugofpeace @ Jan 3 2022 12:29am)
And how exactly do you quantify those symptoms?

"Damn I forgot my car keys in the office, must be long covid!"
"Ugh cardio is so hard, I probably have long covid!"
"Oh geez I'm so tired after eating all this junk food, must be long covid!"
"Oh god I cant concentrate anymore, must be long covid and not the constant rewiring of my brains attention span due to social media!"


How utterly dismissive and condescending of someone else's health. I've treated you fairly and given you the answers you've asked. Remember this interaction started with you tripling down on a basic math error. Maybe you have the confusion and brain fog associated with long covid, it'd make sense

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Quote (Sioux @ Jan 3 2022 03:31am)
You didn't like a peer reviewed lancet published article that used a survey but you're taking your adverse reaction data from circleofmamas.com

Ok...



You want a peer reviewed article tabulating adverse reactions to the vaccine? Do you know how many doctors have been ridiculed/threatened for posting such "misinformation"?

There is a reason so many people including those that are in the medical field and/or highly educated do not want this vaccine.

Buddy get this in your head - there will NEVER be a peer reviewed article that proves the vaccines are unsafe. That is CAREER SUICIDE for anyone in the medical field right now unless they are all independent doctors who can somehow get away with it.

Try to think critically for once, and not like someone whose prefrontal cortex has been so overridden with fear that their logical response is completely incapable of functioning
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Jan 3 2022 02:38am
Quote (Sioux @ Jan 3 2022 03:31am)
How utterly dismissive and condescending of someone else's health. I've treated you fairly and given you the answers you've asked. Remember this interaction started with you tripling down on a basic math error. Maybe you have the confusion and brain fog associated with long covid, it'd make sense



You've answered only what you had convenient answers for, don't kid yourself. I can post examples from a few pages back, plenty to choose from.

Not even sure what tripling down you're talking about, I posted the calculations using the data you kept saying was insufficient and even clarified that there was a discrepancy in my calculations in the end. Everything is out in the open.

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Jan 3 2022 02:44am
By the way - regarding your lancelet article, I just asked if it was peer reviewed since you did that to me. Playing fair.

The majority of my issues with that article are valid and have nothing to do with being peer reviewed.

Now, attacking circle of mamas due to its name/peer reviewed status? This is machiavellian behavior and has zero merit in a scientific discussion. I would suggest attacking the actual data in that pdf instead.

Any time you attack the medium and not the message is admission that you have no argument.

I can certainly post articles that have analyzed VAERS data since that has a bit more credibility.

This post was edited by tugofpeace on Jan 3 2022 02:45am
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Quote (tugofpeace @ Jan 3 2022 12:37am)
You want a peer reviewed article tabulating adverse reactions to the vaccine? Do you know how many doctors have been ridiculed/threatened for posting such "misinformation"?

There is a reason so many people including those that are in the medical field and/or highly educated do not want this vaccine.

Buddy get this in your head - there will NEVER be a peer reviewed article that proves the vaccines are unsafe. That is CAREER SUICIDE for anyone in the medical field right now unless they are all independent doctors who can somehow get away with it.

Try to think critically for once, and not like someone whose prefrontal cortex has been so overridden with fear that their logical response is completely incapable of functioning


Drugs get pulled for safety all the time. You think it would be career suicide? If a researcher came forward with definitive proof of how unsafe you think the vaccines are they'd be the most famous scientist in the world. Science loves a contrarian when they're right. Nothing any of you dumb little brained conspiracy theorists has ever held up has stood up to any basic level scrutiny. Like you going on and on about rising covid mortality post vax is really just a case of someone too dumb to know how to add and subtract and spinning up a potential conspiracy theory.

If someone had actual proof, they'd win the Nobel. They'd be a full professor at Harvard tomorrow. But the reality is the vaccines have been dosed hundreds of millions of times now and everyone is fine.
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Jan 3 2022 02:44am
Quote (tugofpeace @ Jan 3 2022 03:26am)
I can post many sources but I'm going to bed. Try this link for example, 276 pages of clearly documented adverse reactions. Hopefully you arent one of those people that says every single person in this link just happened to get a life threatening condition or died within days of the vaccine of their own health issues

https://circleofmamas.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/CompilationNov2021.pdf

Why havent I gotten covid then? Its been two years?

Also its funny that you say I just have to get covid. If you made a statement like that after I posted what actually has to happen to get covid, you are arguing in bad faith and not using logic which makes it useless responding to you in the future.


LOL
Your source is circleofmamas.com? Based off of VAERS submissions?
You know VAERS isn't verified and is just random people posting whatever they want right? I can post right now that the vaccine shrank my dick to 8 inches and it would be accepted.
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Quote (toyake @ Jan 3 2022 03:44am)
LOL
Your source is circleofmamas.com? Based off of VAERS submissions?
You know VAERS isn't verified and is just random people posting whatever they want right? I can post right now that the vaccine shrank my dick to 8 inches and it would be accepted.



Again:

Attacking circle of mamas due to its name/peer reviewed status? This is machiavellian behavior and has zero merit in a scientific discussion. I would suggest attacking the actual data in that pdf instead.

Any time you attack the medium and not the message is admission that you have no argument.



You know damn well the information in that pdf isnt people claiming they got abducted by aliens and got covid in a spaceship.

This post was edited by tugofpeace on Jan 3 2022 02:46am
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