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Mar 4 2022 09:27pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Mar 4 2022 09:16pm)
You probably think you are making an educated guess/prediction, but to me it's really just speculation.


lol
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Nope, I was a tanker and seeing what they have makes me giggle a little bit.


thats interesting

so whats your take on all these clips of abandoned tanks, at times fully operational and one video even showed a t90 tank (supposed to be on par with western tanks from all i know)

why the fuck would you leave such valuable pieces behind like that?

i have heard german military guys in the media say that they dont believe these dudes are the actual professional troops
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Quote (said_aouita @ Mar 5 2022 12:35am)
One big difference, usa never attacked a nuclear power plant.


your under the assumption thats what actually happened, lets remember many of the videos released showing 'Russia' attacking ukraine were fake, and footage from other countries or times used now stating it was ukraine, there is a BBC journalist saying that was germany.

If NATO/U.S really wanted global war with Russia, all they ahve to do is stage an attack , blame it on russia then go to war
thats what they did few years ago when they blamed russia for poisoning people in U.K, and they never released the evidence showing it was russia

https://twitter.com/suzseddon/status/1499687227735089153


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your under the assumption thats what actually happened, lets remember many of the videos released showing 'Russia' attacking ukraine were fake, and footage from other countries or times used now stating it was ukraine, there is a BBC journalist saying that was germany.

If NATO/U.S really wanted global war with Russia, all they ahve to do is stage an attack , blame it on russia then go to war
thats what they did few years ago when they blamed russia for poisoning people in U.K, and they never released the evidence showing it was russia

https://twitter.com/suzseddon/status/1499687227735089153


https://i.gyazo.com/aa8d44196a7792bf11aa4d7140bb2e15.png


you're

Also, the United States doesn't need a reason to attack. Nor does Russia. Neither country signed no first strike policies.

This post was edited by Cascadian on Mar 4 2022 10:36pm
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Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Mar 5 2022 04:07am)
thats interesting

so whats your take on all these clips of abandoned tanks, at times fully operational and one video even showed a t90 tank (supposed to be on par with western tanks from all i know)

why the fuck would you leave such valuable pieces behind like that?

i have heard german military guys in the media say that they dont believe these dudes are the actual professional troops


From the sources I've read, this is down to:

1) Poor maintenance. The longer you stall on the border waiting to attack, the more maintenance you need on tyres and other equipment. Looks like it wasn't done properly, which means vehicles will get stuck in mud. This has been compounded by using single roads instead of using other terrain
2) Tanks should be used in conjunction with infantry in BTGs so they can eliminate anti-tank infantry. There's a good thread on this here: https://twitter.com/KofmanMichael/status/1498042673667706884
3) Poorly trained troops and low morale. It would appear only the high ranking officers really knew what they were getting into. Do Russians really want to kill Ukrainians? It's like us invading Wales
4) Russian military is an artillery army first and foremost
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Mar 5 2022 12:17am
He said the loud part out loud.
https://twitter.com/GuyFrees/status/1499142030949236739

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Quote (Cascadian @ Mar 4 2022 08:35pm)
you're

Also, the United States doesn't need a reason to attack. Nor does Russia. Neither country signed no first strike policies.


Not sure what you are saying. So, if a country didn't sign a no first strike policy, she can attack another country for no reason?
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Quote (JessiWan @ 4 Mar 2022 22:21)
Not sure what you are saying. So, if a country didn't sign a no first strike policy, she can attack another country for no reason?


Is war legal? The answer is yes. Some countries have signed treaties saying they will not use nuclear weapons in a first strike capability, other countries have not. Russia, and the United States don't need a reason to go to war. They wouldn't need to orchestrate some B level hollywood movie shit.

In fact, the game theory that has predicated the 70 years of peace between Russia and the United States centers on MAD principles. IF either side can first strike, they should.

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