Quote (Sioux @ Jan 3 2022 03:01am)

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370tel:tel:(21)00299-6(21)00299-6[/URL](21)00299-6[/URL]/fulltext

So far >50% of people have symptoms of long covid that have persisted beyond 35 weeks.

Quote (Sioux @ Jan 3 2022 03:02am)

Illegal promotion of an existing product is not the same thing as faking clinical trial data lol. If the government caught a company faking clinical trial data that company would cease to exist as an entity.

Quote (tugofpeace @ Jan 3 2022 02:53am)

Fortunately small companies like SABS cannot cut corners and skip past requirements for demonstrating efficacy/safety like Big Pharma.

Judging by monoclonal antibodies:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S120197122100713X

I would expect the side effects to be minimal. If they aren't then I guess I'll have to rely on my 99.4% survival rate.

Quote (tugofpeace @ Jan 3 2022 12:07am)

Lmao, you cant be serious. First off its an online survey.

Second, out of the 3762 participants, 73% didn't even have a positive test/diagnosis?? Not even a positive antibody test that can be detected looong after initial infection.

Finally, this isnt peer reviewed right?

Quote (tugofpeace @ Jan 3 2022 12:09am)

Probably why Pfizer is asking for 55 years to release its full dataset right?

Have you read through their first month's release? So much data about adverse reactions the public wasn't informed about.

Quote (toyake @ Jan 3 2022 03:12am)

Monoclonal antibodies are being used under emergency use authorization, you know, the same thing that the vaccines are used under.

So why are you scared that vaccines don't have enough data but monoclonal antibodies do? Especially considering they have received even less testing and use?

The negative side effects of the vaccine are minimal yet you huff and puff about those, why's that?

Quote (tugofpeace @ Jan 3 2022 12:17am)

Where did I say vaccines dont have enough data?

How did you come to the conclusion that vaccine side effects are minimal? By listening to mainstream media (which is funded by pharma) or pharma themselves?

Do you understand the swiss cheese model?

In order to get a bad reaction from covid the following has to happen:

Go to a place where there are many people
Speak to someone for a period of time
That someone has to be infected and contagious
That someone has to not be wearing a mask
I have to not be wearing a mask
I need to be exposed to enough viral load to be infected
My body has to react to covid poorly
I have to go to the hospital and get treatment
The treatment has to not work well enough

In order to get a bad reaction from the vaccine the following has to happen (not to mention the above scenario is still possible after vaccination):

I have to get the vaccine

Quote (tugofpeace @ Jan 2 2022 05:39pm)

Food for thought:

Harvard educated doctor on the Illinois public board of health (42 second video), dated 4/27/2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw9Ci2PZKZg

Bullshit, you say? She doesn't know what she's talking about? Article proving what she said is right, in another state, dated 7/8/2021 (over a year later):

https://sanjosespotlight.com/santa-clara-county-revises-total-covid-deaths-by-over-20/

Still skeptical? Italy clarifies that 97% of their COVID deaths were in people with 1 comorbidity or greater:

https://www.epicentro.iss.it/en/coronavirus/bollettino/Report-COVID-2019_5_october_2021.pdf

Well shoot, this is still all garbage, cases are high! We can still refer to cases! Isn't it funny how suddenly the flu is nearly eradicated? Well that's due to masks and social distancing you say? Well that's interesting, because how come Japan has been routinely wearing masks before the pandemic, but they still have a prevalent flu season in their population? Maybe, just maybe, hospitals are counting the flu as covid?


But all this is still fake you say? The virus has a 99.7% survival rate. What level of risk reduction are you looking for by taking the vaccine? 99.8%? 99.9%?

Quote (tugofpeace @ Jan 3 2022 03:17am)

Where did I say vaccines dont have enough data?

How did you come to the conclusion that vaccine side effects are minimal? By listening to mainstream media (which is funded by pharma) or pharma themselves?

Do you understand the swiss cheese model?

In order to get a bad reaction from covid the following has to happen:

Go to a place where there are many people
Speak to someone for a period of time
That someone has to be infected and contagious
That someone has to not be wearing a mask
I have to not be wearing a mask
I need to be exposed to enough viral load to be infected
My body has to react to covid poorly
I have to go to the hospital and get treatment
The treatment has to not work well enough

In order to get a bad reaction from the vaccine the following has to happen (not to mention the above scenario is still possible after vaccination):

I have to get the vaccine

Quote (Sioux @ Jan 3 2022 03:12am)

It is peer reviewed lol.

How about this https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1003773#abstract0
or this https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01433-3
or this then? https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2784918