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Quote (chopstickz777 @ Jun 2 2022 03:23pm)
Georgia shot at Russia first provoking a military reaction, after being prodded to do so by NATO.

Chechnya was overrun by CIA-backed terrorists of the wahabbi orientation and were brutalizing the locals, had carried out numerous terrorist attacks in Russia and generally had to be removed.

Belarus was friendlier with the west until the CIA tried a color revolution and Lukashenko responded by moving into closer ties with Russia.

Ukraine like Chechnya is also overrun by terrorists, only instead of radical islamists they are hardcore neo-nazi's.

Crimea did vote for annexation in a >90% margin.

Ukraine bombed shot and shelled the Donbass daily for 8 years and refused peace.

All these things are true. Sorry you don't like to deal with reality.


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Quote (chopstickz777 @ Jun 2 2022 10:23am)
Georgia shot at Russia first provoking a military reaction, after being prodded to do so by NATO.

Chechnya was overrun by CIA-backed terrorists of the wahabbi orientation and were brutalizing the locals, had carried out numerous terrorist attacks in Russia and generally had to be removed.

Belarus was friendlier with the west until the CIA tried a color revolution and Lukashenko responded by moving into closer ties with Russia.

Ukraine like Chechnya is also overrun by terrorists, only instead of radical islamists they are hardcore neo-nazi's.

Crimea did vote for annexation in a >90% margin.

Ukraine bombed shot and shelled the Donbass daily for 8 years and refused peace.

All these things are true. Sorry you don't like to deal with reality.


Lie.

Uber spin.

Spin.

Incredible series of lies.

Gullible AF.

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Quote (Santara @ Jun 2 2022 10:37am)
Lie.

Uber spin.

Spin.

Incredible series of lies.

Gullible AF.

https://i.imgur.com/4qAk0q9.jpg


LOL

Ok bro
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Oh look, another gullible child who doesn't have a grasp on history
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Quote (ferdia @ Jun 2 2022 09:31am)

^chopstickz777 you state: Georgia shot at Russia first, provoking a military reaction, after being prodded to do so by NATO. Is this a metaphorical statement or a literal statement. i.e. did Georgian forces attack/shoot at Russian forces. is this your position?

what precise action "shot at Russia" are you referring to here ? To my mind Russia did not want Georgia in Nato (a sentiment I can understand) thus i dont understand, what i would call a pretext, re: shot at Nato. further: shooting at Russia (literally) would never be at the behest of Nato, noting Nato did not have their back (since they were not in Nato). I am seeking honest and open debate here.


The Georgians were acting aggressively towards South Ossetia and preparing a military operation with NATO backing.

From what I remember they had bombed both civilians as well as Russian peacekeepers with artillery, causing dozens of casualties amongst Russian forces *before* Russia attacked.

It was only after this happened that Russia decided to act. The situation was quite similar to Ukraine - the Georgians wanted to come in and wipe out South Ossetia like how Ukraine wanted to wipe out Donbass.

In both cases, Russia moved before any hostile offensive operations could take place against the local populace. In the case of Georgia the Georgians had already killed a few dozen Russian peacekeepers, giving them justification for the war.
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Quote (chopstickz777 @ Jun 2 2022 12:21pm)
LOL

Ok bro


Everything I wrote is true, so there's no point hashing out basic facts with a muppet.
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Everything I wrote is true, so there's no point hashing out basic facts with a muppet.


Your point? You wouldn't know any basic facts in regard to anything that isn't spoonfed to you by the likes of CNN & co. You are ironically the brainwashed muppet here.

Imagine being so gullible that you're still listening to and reading mainstream media in fucking 2022. Lmao.

I couldn't give less of a damn about the Eurolemmings. They are committing mass suicide and in a few years when Trump is re-elected will be begging to restore economic ties with Russia as their people starve and freeze.
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Quote (chopstickz777 @ Jun 2 2022 06:30pm)
The Georgians were acting aggressively towards South Ossetia and preparing a military operation with NATO backing.

From what I remember they had bombed both civilians as well as Russian peacekeepers with artillery, causing dozens of casualties amongst Russian forces *before* Russia attacked.

It was only after this happened that Russia decided to act. The situation was quite similar to Ukraine - the Georgians wanted to come in and wipe out South Ossetia like how Ukraine wanted to wipe out Donbass.

In both cases, Russia moved before any hostile offensive operations could take place against the local populace. In the case of Georgia the Georgians had already killed a few dozen Russian peacekeepers, giving them justification for the war.


im not refuting this, does anyone else want to try to refute this ?

in the round geogia thought Nato had their back so they made a move. Russia responded and then Georgia was flummoxed when they realised Nato did in fact, not have their back. happy for that to be debated a bit.

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im not refuting this, does anyone else want to try to refute this ?


South Osetia is a territory of Georgia. Same as Abkhazia. There were conflicts between Georgians and locals since they all voted "yes" to save USSR, but both territories were belong to Georgian Soviet Socialist Republic. This ended up in several conflicts with Russian peacemakers sending in. Same way as Transnistria. In this case Russia was wiping Chechnya. Rebels deserve to be wiped and if there's a foreign country preventing you from that then there's something wrong with this country.

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Quote (chopstickz777 @ Jun 2 2022 12:36pm)
Your point? You wouldn't know any basic facts in regard to anything that isn't spoonfed to you by the likes of CNN & co. You are ironically the brainwashed muppet here.

Imagine being so gullible that you're still listening to and reading mainstream media in fucking 2022. Lmao.

I couldn't give less of a damn about the Eurolemmings. They are committing mass suicide and in a few years when Trump is re-elected will be begging to restore economic ties with Russia as their people starve and freeze.


My point is that everything you spew from your keyboard is a lie. gEoRgIa ShOt FiRsT? FOH CIA bAcKeD cHeChEnS? FOH BeLaRuS wAs FrIeNdLiEr WiTh ThE wEsT? FOH cRiMeAn VoTe? FOH

You're a fucking CLOWN.
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