Now, are you ready to address the claims from the other side that it is UKRAINE that has invaded 3 sovereign nations?

Are you ready to address the simple fact that Ukraine can simply cease to exist as a nation and it won't impact any other nation on the planet in a negative way, while the sanctioning of Russia as well as fighting against Russia certainly does?

Thus far, you appear to be here merely to try to convince everyone how great you did in Writing 101. Well, seems like you failed, for the most part. Give it another shot?

You referenced Writing 101, and it pains me that you didn't take a reading comprehension class. Do you really think the mention that the overall subject of this discussion thread is about an invasion of a sovereign nation endorses that paragraph of rage text you posted? Take five minutes, go get some fresh air, and come back when you've settled your thoughts.

*edit* bringing with me this random thought spaghetti you've attributed to me as I find it funny.



This post was edited by Cascadian on Jun 1 2022 08:19pm

Hi Cascadian Ukraine is a Nazi state and Joe Biden is a traitor to us all. How is that for a debate?

You continue to fail to address any points or the subject of the discussion at all. Now that your only point in this discussion has been addressed in a manner in which you have no response, you're now seeking any straw by which to avoid either admitting you were wrong, or advancing the discussion.

That's referred to as the "heckler's veto" and is a standard fallback for first year college students these days. Well done? Now that you've proven that you have nothing to say, why don't you go get yourself some hot chocolate and cookies, get some calm down time before bed, k kiddo?

See that ↑ ?? That's called being needlessly condescending. It's what a person does when they have zero respect for a person or any point they make, and do not wish to engage in the active conversation at hand. This is how the majority of your responses in PaRD come across. Hope you enjoyed.

I see I need to digest this for you. Please find this statement:

If you can find any post I've made in the previous 72 hours, where I advocate that the world should support Ukraine because Russia Invaded a Sovereign nation, I'll concede and give you 7,000 fg. Let me know when you've given up trying to find such a post, apologize for putting words in my mouth, and lets move on back to the Lisbon Protocol discussion I was so kindly having with

This post was edited by Cascadian on Jun 1 2022 08:26pm

When you call people who disagree with you cattle, advocate an end to civility, and make a reference to an invasion that you had never once made prior to February, your hand is played.

BTW, to enhance your simpleton's understanding of where you are right now, let's go back and address this, shall we:



This topic is a debate. This forum is called Political & Religious Debate. And the only history you have referred to revolves around a so-called invasion that you have not proven is an invasion at all. Based on the actions of Russia, their claims of police action are more likely than your claims of invasion.

If you wander into a forum about debate, don't make bullshit "I'm not here to debate with you" excuses. These are the actions of a child. Or a whiney first year college student who believes the college exists "to build a home" for them, as opposed to educate them.

I see you've completely conceded the previous train graciously by acting like it never happened, or were about to go down "what-aboutism" again? What exactly am I to debate? You keep applying arguments other people make to me and demand I reply to your reply to a position you've misattributed to me. Like what the fuck?

This post was edited by Cascadian on Jun 1 2022 08:37pm

It's nobody's fault but your own if you don't like the answers to the questions you ask. Claiming they were never answered is your problem, nobody else's.

Now, you stated, in your own words, "I won't "Debate" well established facts, like ratified treaties by multinational organizations, and nations."

We have already pointed out that there is no treaty in place that requires anyone support Ukraine unless there is a UN resolution. We've already pointed out that Ukraine is guilty of invading three sovereign nations who are recognized by multiple of those UN members.

If you want a debate, justify your stance that Russia has invaded Ukraine at all. Justify any position that would hamper Russia's claim that this is a police action to support three of their bordering allies?

When you finish that, feel free to explain "what's in it for me" for any other nation in the world to support Ukraine, when every other nation in the world stands to lose, not win, by trade being cut off from Russia, and enough direct involvement may end up with Russia utilizing it's nuclear armament?

When you finish addressing that, please inform us the history of the Ukrainian government's negotiations with the three republics at question and how they can work together following the referendums that established their independence, their response to the will of the peoples of those republics, their refusal to resolve the issue via diplomacy with Russia, etc.

After you're finished with all that, please explain to us how exactly any country other than Ukraine gains any benefit whatsoever from assisting Ukraine. Because based on what we've seen so far, we simply hurt ourself, while solidifying alliances between Russia, India, and China.

Man, Bob's world view is so fucked up when it comes to Ukraine LMAO. He wants Ukraine to sit back and take a beating like a woman does when her husband comes home in a drunken stupor. How poetic...

can't handle a taste of your own medicine? ignoring valid points and touting elaborate rhetoric is your MO.