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Quote (JessiWan @ Jun 1 2022 06:47pm)
Why do you think it's inevitable?


I don't. I think it's unlikely to happen. However, I always hedge by bets because I'm risk averse.
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Dude, you are the last one to accuse other people of ad hominems.


I don't attack people because I'm unable to attack their position.

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Continue to not back up your claim.


Sure, continue pleading ignorance. It doesn't bother me any, just getting my +1's here since GC is moderated to shit.
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Quote (Cascadian @ Jun 1 2022 06:55pm)
I don't attack people because I'm unable to attack their position.


But you admit that you attack people, right?

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Sure, continue pleading ignorance. It doesn't bother me any, just getting my +1's here since GC is moderated to shit.


Oh I see, so you are just here to shit-post. It all makes sense now.
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Quote (JessiWan @ 1 Jun 2022 18:57)
But you admit that you attack people, right?


Hasty generalization.
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Quote (Cascadian @ 1 Jun 2022 18:50)
Ad hominem, Slippery slope, appeal to the masses, whataboutism... noted.


You do understand that you appear to be a first term wet behind the ears community college student, correct? Mildly curious.

Shouting out fallacies doesn't win a debate. It just makes you look like a child. If you spot a fallacy and accurately point it out, that doesn't win the debate. That's not how anything works.

Thus far, the only real point you've brought to this discussion was that the rest of the world should support Ukraine because Russia invaded a sovereign nation.

On the flipside, Russia is telling us they're conducting a police action, because of Ukraine's invasion of the Donetsk People's Republic, Luhansk People's Republic, and Republic of Crimea. All of which had referendums to split from Ukraine (historical fact), all of which have been acknowledged as Independent nations by multiple UN members. These three republics have been dealing with military invasion and violence for 8 years from Ukraine. Russia claims to be coming to their aid, why should we believe you rather than them, when we know, based on the facts at hand, that that would do nothing but harm our own citizens?

The only argument you have presented for why anyone should support Ukraine is directly contravened by Ukraine's own actions. Now, stop pretending to be a wet behind the ears community college student, and use your fucking brain. Or go grow up a bit and come back when you're ready for a real debate. :)

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Hasty generalization.


I don't think you know what this actually means.
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The only argument you have presented for why anyone should support Ukraine is directly contravened by Ukraine's own actions. Now, stop pretending to be a wet behind the ears community college student, and use your fucking brain. Or go grow up a bit and come back when you're ready for a real debate. :)

I think this is too much to ask of him.
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You do understand that you appear to be a first term wet behind the ears community college student, correct? Mildly curious.

Is this a question? Are you asking me if I understand you perceive me as some student? How can I attest to that.


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Shouting out fallacies doesn't win a debate. It just makes you look like a child. If you spot a fallacy and accurately point it out, that doesn't win the debate. That's not how anything works.

There in lies the miscommunication. This isn't a debate, and I'm not trying to win. People don't debate if 1+2=5, just as I won't "Debate" well established facts, like ratified treaties by multinational organizations, and nations.

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Quote (Cascadian @ 1 Jun 2022 19:00)
Is this a question? Are you asking me if I understand you perceive me as some student? How can I attest to that.

There in lies the miscommunication. This isn't a debate, and I'm not trying to win. People don't debate if 1+2=5, just as I won't "Debate" well established facts, like ratified treaties by multinational organizations.


Your response tells far more than you intended, though for the average checkers player, I suppose it seemed to have made sense at the time. To repeat what I said in the previous post, since it hasn't changed, and you're too weak to acknowledge any actual arguments:

Thus far, the only real point you've brought to this discussion was that the rest of the world should support Ukraine because Russia invaded a sovereign nation.

On the flipside, Russia is telling us they're conducting a police action, because of Ukraine's invasion of the Donetsk People's Republic, Luhansk People's Republic, and Republic of Crimea. All of which had referendums to split from Ukraine (historical fact), all of which have been acknowledged as Independent nations by multiple UN members. These three republics have been dealing with military invasion and violence for 8 years from Ukraine. Russia claims to be coming to their aid, why should we believe you rather than them, when we know, based on the facts at hand, that that would do nothing but harm our own citizens?

The only argument you have presented for why anyone should support Ukraine is directly contravened by Ukraine's own actions. Now, stop pretending to be a wet behind the ears community college student, and use your fucking brain. Or go grow up a bit and come back when you're ready for a real debate. :)
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ 1 Jun 2022 19:04)
Your response tells far more than you intended, though for the average checkers player, I suppose it seemed to have made sense at the time. To repeat what I said in the previous post, since it hasn't changed, and you're too weak to acknowledge any actual arguments:

Thus far, the only real point you've brought to this discussion was that the rest of the world should support Ukraine because Russia invaded a sovereign nation.

On the flipside, Russia is telling us they're conducting a police action, because of Ukraine's invasion of the Donetsk People's Republic, Luhansk People's Republic, and Republic of Crimea. All of which had referendums to split from Ukraine (historical fact), all of which have been acknowledged as Independent nations by multiple UN members. These three republics have been dealing with military invasion and violence for 8 years from Ukraine. Russia claims to be coming to their aid, why should we believe you rather than them, when we know, based on the facts at hand, that that would do nothing but harm our own citizens?

The only argument you have presented for why anyone should support Ukraine is directly contravened by Ukraine's own actions. Now, stop pretending to be a wet behind the ears community college student, and use your fucking brain. Or go grow up a bit and come back when you're ready for a real debate. :)


Feel free to find a single post in this thread, or anywhere on this site where I made those claims. The only claim I've made is that the denuclearization of Ukraine came with security assurances, but no worries, you've split me into some "us versus them" group so all the "thems" look alike to you. Take a five minute break and reflect on how you've gotten to this point.

This post was edited by Cascadian on Jun 1 2022 08:07pm
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