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Jan 5 2017 04:15pm
Quote (Wyrmvater @ Jan 5 2017 02:31pm)
lol, scientists can actually make abiogenesis with the right molecules, or atoms, etc. IT IS KNOWN.


I wish! Soon.... soon
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Jan 5 2017 04:55pm
so when God created this world, in the 5th day he created the animals and plants. so he got up at 6am, had coffee, then said: where the heck is my abiogenesis ?

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Jan 5 2017 05:04pm
anyway, abiogenesis is nothing. scientists found some fluorescent jelly fish in a prehistoric lake. so they transplanted the fluorescent genes to bunnies. so they got bunnies that glow fluorescent in the dark! kids love them

if you don't believe me, google it

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Jan 5 2017 08:01pm
Quote (Scaly @ Jan 6 2017 06:26am)
Well that will teach me for taking your argument seriously.


Yeah, take that Scaly!
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Yeah, take that Scaly!


It's just fucking sad really. I come on here to discuss things. I do my best. Make an effort to make thoughtful posts that are full of content and your reply is a random youtube vid. It's pathetic and a waste of my time and yours.

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Quote (Scaly @ Jan 5 2017 06:11pm)
It's just fucking sad really. I come on here to discuss things. I do my best. Make an effort to make thoughtful posts that are full of content and your reply is a random youtube vid. It's pathetic and a waste of my time and yours.


That's how most discussions involving religion boil down. They're quite adept at arguing against everyday people who just watched one video with Krauss and don't know how to argue the position. It's something else entirely when they run into individuals who possess education and research both sides of the argument and dissect it. It almost always boils down to a god of the gaps argument, which is just lazy thinking. You cannot logically make an argument against the Bible because they claim it refutes logic. Like his ridiculous argument that if God told him to kill someone it wouldn't be murder. Defies all common sense, defies logic, defies laws, but to him it somehow makes perfect sense.

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That's how most discussions involving religion boil down. They're quite adept at arguing against everyday people who just watched one video with Krauss and don't know how to argue the position. It's something else entirely when they run into individuals who possess education and research both sides of the argument and dissect it. It almost always boils down to a god of the gaps argument, which is just lazy thinking. You cannot logically make an argument against the Bible because they claim it refutes logic. Like his ridiculous argument that if God told him to kill someone it wouldn't be murder. Defies all common sense, defies logic, defies laws, but to him it somehow makes perfect sense.


Let's look at Genesis 22 where God tells Abraham to sacrifice his one and only son, Isaac. Let's see the story there where it actually happened shall we?

The Sacrifice of Isaac
22 After these things God tested Abraham and said to him, “Abraham!” And he said, “Here I am.” 2 He said, “Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.” 3 So Abraham rose early in the morning, saddled his donkey, and took two of his young men with him, and his son Isaac. And he cut the wood for the burnt offering and arose and went to the place of which God had told him. 4 On the third day Abraham lifted up his eyes and saw the place from afar. 5 Then Abraham said to his young men, “Stay here with the donkey; I and the boy[a] will go over there and worship and come again to you.” 6 And Abraham took the wood of the burnt offering and laid it on Isaac his son. And he took in his hand the fire and the knife. So they went both of them together. 7 And Isaac said to his father Abraham, “My father!” And he said, “Here I am, my son.” He said, “Behold, the fire and the wood, but where is the lamb for a burnt offering?” 8 Abraham said, “God will provide for himself the lamb for a burnt offering, my son.” So they went both of them together.

9 When they came to the place of which God had told him, Abraham built the altar there and laid the wood in order and bound Isaac his son and laid him on the altar, on top of the wood. 10 Then Abraham reached out his hand and took the knife to slaughter his son. 11 But the angel of the Lord called to him from heaven and said, “Abraham, Abraham!” And he said, “Here I am.” 12 He said, “Do not lay your hand on the boy or do anything to him, for now I know that you fear God, seeing you have not withheld your son, your only son, from me.” 13 And Abraham lifted up his eyes and looked, and behold, behind him was a ram, caught in a thicket by his horns. And Abraham went and took the ram and offered it up as a burnt offering instead of his son. 14 So Abraham called the name of that place, “The Lord will provide”; as it is said to this day, “On the mount of the Lord it shall be provided.”

15 And the angel of the Lord called to Abraham a second time from heaven 16 and said, “By myself I have sworn, declares the Lord, because you have done this and have not withheld your son, your only son, 17 I will surely bless you, and I will surely multiply your offspring as the stars of heaven and as the sand that is on the seashore. And your offspring shall possess the gate of his enemies, 18 and in your offspring shall all the nations of the earth be blessed, because you have obeyed my voice.” 19 So Abraham returned to his young men, and they arose and went together to Beersheba. And Abraham lived at Beersheba.

20 Now after these things it was told to Abraham, “Behold, Milcah also has borne children to your brother Nahor: 21 Uz his firstborn, Buz his brother, Kemuel the father of Aram, 22 Chesed, Hazo, Pildash, Jidlaph, and Bethuel.” 23 (Bethuel fathered Rebekah.) These eight Milcah bore to Nahor, Abraham's brother. 24 Moreover, his concubine, whose name was Reumah, bore Tebah, Gaham, Tahash, and Maacah.
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Jan 5 2017 10:05pm
Quote (Impose @ 6 Jan 2017 02:17)
Like his ridiculous argument that if God told him to kill someone it wouldn't be murder.


A lot of religious people say this. Though it sounds worrying I think the majority would have the good sense to see a psychiatrist if they started hearing voices. At least I hope so.
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Jan 5 2017 11:59pm
Quote (Scaly @ Jan 6 2017 02:05pm)
A lot of religious people say this. Though it sounds worrying I think the majority would have the good sense to see a psychiatrist if they started hearing voices. At least I hope so.


So tell me then, what is your solution to remove the ISIS threat in the here and now?

What would your solution have been to neutralize the Germans when Hitler was in command?
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So tell me then, what is your solution to remove the ISIS threat in the here and now?

What would your solution have been to neutralize the Germans when Hitler was in command?



Well the infants and livestock would definitely have been the first to go...
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