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Jan 2 2022 04:05am
Quote (toyake @ Jan 2 2022 01:53am)
% change.

You already posted 2020 numbers.


nope

Quote (Sioux @ Jan 2 2022 01:55am)
Large datasets take time to collect, process and analyze. It isn't an instantaneous thing when you're collecting huge numbers from 150+ countries that all handle the data differently.

Let me ask if you this, if I asked you to figure out how many organic oranges were sold in America last Monday where would you go? That number exists and is knowable but how would you go about getting an answer? You could call up the corporate of every grocery store and ask for their tally but how can you be sure Walmart and Wegmans are reporting the numbers the same way? What if one group reports their sales by the pound where as others report by unit? How do you parse all that data efficiently into a single, reliable number?

I'm sure the 2020 number is out there but when dealing with any dataset that has complex inputs it isn't as simple asopening your global deaths 2021 spreadsheet now that it's 2022


1 death = 1 you want to say its complex with computers and the net.........................

if you report deaths and you had one death you put in "1" and hit send ............ DEEEEAMMMMMM :)
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Jan 2 2022 04:11am
Quote (TiStuff @ Jan 2 2022 05:05am)
nope



1 death = 1 you want to say its complex with computers and the net.........................

if you report deaths and you had one death you put in "1" and hit send ............ DEEEEAMMMMMM :)


You already said the numbers have been changed, so why would you expect them to be cut and dry now?
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Quote (TiStuff @ Jan 2 2022 02:05am)

1 death = 1 you want to say its complex with computers and the net.........................

if you report deaths and you had one death you put in "1" and hit send ............ DEEEEAMMMMMM :)


That just isn't how the real world works. This is why science education is important because people dramatically understand how data is generated and organized.

Three people die in three different countries. The US, Ghana and Russia. Who Is the first person to log that death and how does that feed to a non-existent central global database of deaths? Like who's the coroner in rural Ghana emailing this data to so you can get an accurate number for your conspiracies?
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Jan 2 2022 04:12am
Quote (toyake @ Jan 2 2022 02:11am)
You already said the numbers have been changed, so why would you expect them to be cut and dry now?


i think your just trolling nobody is that dim
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Jan 2 2022 04:14am
Quote (TiStuff @ Jan 2 2022 05:12am)
i think your just trolling nobody is that dim


Why are you trying to flip flop now?
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Jan 2 2022 04:15am
Quote (Sioux @ Jan 2 2022 02:11am)
That just isn't how the real world works. This is why science education is important because people dramatically understand how data is generated and organized.

Three people die in three different countries. The US, Ghana and Russia. Who Is the first person to log that death and how does that feed to a non-existent central global database of deaths? Like who's the coroner in rural Ghana emailing this data to so you can get an accurate number for your conspiracies?


the dude in rural Ghana would report it to who he is supposed to report it to and so on till the number reaches its final destination. ............... cheeeeeeet this cant be for real
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Jan 2 2022 04:20am
Quote (TiStuff @ Jan 2 2022 02:15am)
the dude in rural Ghana would report it to who he is supposed to report it to and so on till the number reaches its final destination. ............... cheeeeeeet this cant be for real



Again that final destination isn't the same for all the countries in the world. Not every country is able to track it's citizens deaths the way the US does, if a person is born lives and dies in the mountains of Afghanistan without every showing up on a government radar does that not count? You're assuming every country has a first world bureaucracy which just isn't the case. These reporting structures don't exist for every government and the ones that do aren't the same the world over
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Jan 2 2022 04:24am
Quote (Sioux @ Jan 2 2022 02:20am)
Again that final destination isn't the same for all the countries in the world. Not every country is able to track it's citizens deaths the way the US does, if a person is born lives and dies in the mountains of Afghanistan without every showing up on a government radar does that not count? You're assuming every country has a first world bureaucracy which just isn't the case. These reporting structures don't exist for every government and the ones that do aren't the same the world over


ev1 has a phone now where u been?
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Jan 2 2022 04:27am
Quote (TiStuff @ Jan 2 2022 02:24am)
ev1 has a phone now where u been?



From the WHO website

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The challenges of data gaps
Significant data gaps exist in the African, Eastern Mediterranean, South-East Asian, and Western Pacific regions for which just over 360 000 total COVID-19 deaths were reported in 2020. Only 16 of the 106 Member States in these regions have sufficient data to make empirical calculations.

Without timely, reliable and actionable data we cannot accurately measure progress towards the health-related SDGs or WHO’s Triple Billion targets. Moreover, we cannot accurately measure the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic to better inform public policy and prepare for future health emergencies. According to WHO's World Health Statistics 2020 report, for almost one-fifth of countries over half of the SDG indicators lack recent, primary data. The availability of data also varies widely by income group and by indicator.

WHO is actively engaging with Member States to strengthen health information systems, particularly civil registration and vital statistics (CRVS), and improve data availability and quality. This includes targeted interventions to address the weakest areas identified by the SCORE (Survey, Count, Optimize, Review, Enable) global report, 2020, which showed for example that only 27% of countries have sustainable capacity to survey public health threats.


https://www.who.int/data/stories/the-true-death-toll-of-covid-19-estimating-global-excess-mortality

This post was edited by Sioux on Jan 2 2022 04:27am
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Quote (Sioux @ Jan 2 2022 02:27am)
From the WHO website



https://www.who.int/data/stories/the-true-death-toll-of-covid-19-estimating-global-excess-mortality[/URL]


after you biching on n on about projected data but estimating is a ok c'mon man
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