You're substituting in a very complicated racial explanation for what can be explained simply using power dynamics. Why did Cyrus the Great establish a colossal land empire, except that he could?

True but it is even weirder for Alexander to rule India lol.



This post was edited by Skinned on Jun 1 2022 04:50pm

What ally has Russia attacked? Alliances are made through treaties. We have no Treaty with Ukraine. We have no mutual defense clause. We don't even have any government-level trade contracts with them. Our private companies do absolute minimal business with them. Under no circumstance do they count as an "ally".

If you wish to claim Russia is undermining our democracy, you've now gone down a rabbit hole of disproven conspiracy that is beyond belief. Stock up on that foil, tin man.

No intent or desire has been expressed by Russia, Russians, or the Russian Government to reestablish the Soviet Union. The only people who're making that claim are pro-war anti-Russian zealots like yourself.

Everything you say is horse shit. You couldn't stick with facts to save your life.

You worth each other. Both are victims of propaganda. De-evolution at it's best.

I am not interested in propaganda, particularly, but you may wish to look in the mirror.

Ukraine is not a US ally. The US loses absolutely nothing if Donbas gains it's independence from Ukraine, if Crimea stays in the hands of Russia, and if Ukraine gets punched in the teeth. We lose a lot by cutting off trade with Russia. There's no propaganda there, it's just fact. America has already lost hundreds of billions supporting Ukraine, both in weapons out of our own national security stockpiles and direct dollar payments. The US taxpayer actively paying the government salaries of the Ukraine is utter horseshit. We didn't elect them, they've done absolutely nothing for us, and in fact, their failure to utilize diplomacy with Russia has drawn us into a war that has cost us hundreds of billions given to UKraine, and hundreds of billions in lost trade with Russia.

No propaganda there. US Taxpayers are suffering because of Ukraine. If anything, at this point, I think we should join forces with Russia, crush the Ukrainian government, and install a government that isn't so fucking stupid they'd rather go to war trusting the US will have their back than compromise with the top world nuclear power outside the US itself.

The government of Ukraine isn't worth helping. They aren't an ally. They aren't a business partner. They're petty, stupid, and serve nobody but themselves. They are unworthy of help, from anyone.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Jun 1 2022 05:26pm

The US made security assurances to Ukraine in exchange for nuclear disarmament.

Putin's own writings include restoration of the Soviet empire.

You are the one full of shit.

Where are these security assurances? Such assurances come in the form of a treaty, we have no treaty. At what time, what location, on what date were these assurances provided, and by whom? You've made a claim, a statement of fact. We need you to back up that statement of fact and provide details.

Where in Putin's writings does he state the intent to restore the Soviet Union? Please link to the exact quote with full context. You have made a statement of fact as though you're fully away that it's true. If such is the case, I'm sure you've reviewed the source material that declares it, so please share. Not an op-ed, not a meme. Link us to Putin's own writings that state what you claim.

You have yet to show any facts or evidence that Ukraine is an ally. You have yet to show any facts or evidence that Russia is an enemy. One note: The Soviet Union was our ally in WWII. We were never in a hot war with the Soviet Union. We traded with the Soviet Union during the entire course of it's existence. Russia is currently being treated WORSE than the Soviet Union ever was. Why?

Damn, Bobb kicks *ss.

Feel free to take a stroll in a history book and look at the conditions in which Ukraine entered nuclear disarmament.

You shouldn't talk like that. It doesn't add anything to the discussion. It only makes people hate you.

Then again, maybe that's what you want.