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Jun 1 2022 04:21pm
Quote (Skinned @ Jun 1 2022 03:16pm)
You're Incorrect. We keep huge forces in Europe so that we can be balls deep into any enemy in 48 hours.


Maybe you wouldn't need to be balls deep into any enemy if you didn't try to make enemies everywhere.
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Yes having the largest contingent of armor prepared for rapid deployment in Europe is of benefit to the United States lol.


I am not sold on it. Sounds like it would only benefit the elites to have US army presence in Europe. They and their sons and nephews aren't being sent to the front line. Regular American soldiers are paying with their lives to secure these elites' interests and you cheer this on, lol.
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Jun 1 2022 04:24pm
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Maybe you wouldn't need to be balls deep into any enemy if you didn't try to make enemies everywhere.


I am not sold on it. Sounds like it would only benefit the elites to have US army presence in Europe. They and their sons and nephews aren't being sent to the front line. Regular American soldiers are paying with their lives to secure these elites' interests and you cheer this on, lol.


Well people have been funneling all the wealth of earth to north america and europe for several hundred years with the help of collaborators here and there at the expense of native populations so its a little late for that my friend.

The bottom of the Louvre is stuffed with all the ancient treasure of the Sumerian empire for example. How much shit does the Queen of England have that was obtained through murder and exploitation of brown people?

These white men are dangerous lol.

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Jun 1 2022 04:27pm
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Well people have been funneling all the wealth of earth to north america and europe for several hundred years with the help of collaborators here and there at the expense of native populations so its a little late for that my friend.

The bottom of the Louvre is stuffed with all the ancient treasure of the Sumerian empire for example. How much shit does the Queen of England have that was obtained through murder and exploitation?

These white men are dangerous lol.


Lol I don't understand why you turned it racial.
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Jun 1 2022 04:31pm
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Lol I don't understand why you turned it racial.


Because the world is a racial place?

Just pointing out that North Americans and Europeans are the most warlike people on Earth. How often has France been attacked by Vietnam? How often has England been attacked by India? How often has the United States been attacked by Latin American countries?

If one group of people is doing something why not call them out? The Right acts like the Left is obtuse about black people and crime. Why are some people so obtuse about this? Its real easy to grasp if you've ever checked out a history book.

The only European country that isn't warlike is Ireland IMO, and they've gotten a ton of problems for it including occupation. I'm not just saying that because I'm a Mc.

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You're Incorrect. We keep huge forces in Europe so that we can be balls deep into any enemy in 48 hours. I was stationed in Germany, Conn Barracks, and was part of a rapid deployment combat arms battalion. We could get orders and have tanks in god damn Yugoslavia in 48 hours and did.

Do you not think that having the largest continent of armor in Western Europe is of benefit to the United States? Of course it benefits the United States to be able to project ground forces, not just air and sea, not just paratroopers either, but actual fucking armor pieces with cavalry support.

Our tanks are twice the size have twice the power and we could get a division of them in Ukraine by Friday night if we wanted, in time for the big game.

Its been a solid twenty years since I've served. I know the M1A2 is much better than the M1A1 I operated and I know that every other force multiplier we have has been developed as well.

You see how bad the Ukrainians are smoking the Russians with the stuff we're giving them? What until you see what we're holding back or save for ourselves.

Yes having the largest contingent of armor prepared for rapid deployment in Europe is of benefit to the United States lol.

This is only the tenth proxy war with Russia we have had in my life.



They're running out of generals. Units are refusing to deploy to the front lines. Putin is so desperate with his chemo ridden brain they've raised the age of conscription well into the 40s.

I can't wait for you to sing his praises when he starts sending Russian children to die to the free people of Ukraine while trying to make them slaves.

Never seen anyone so enthusiastically embrace human slavery as you lol.



Russia hasn't made anything new that has gone into production in decades. They can't even make a new rifle. Every rifle they make is a variant of the Kalashnikov. They can't innovate. I can't believe that they played their hand and this was it. It goes to show that Putin doesn't even know what cards he is holding.



You should really try and read some first hand sources from places like Telegram because you're painfully misinformed. Zelensky already publicly admitted that Ukraine most likely won't be able to recover some of it's territories lost to Russia. He himself admitted that they are losing between 60-100 men daily, with hundreds wounded daily. A ton of Ukrainian forces Ukraine is sending east are territorial defense forces formed after the start of the war. Not soldiers, but random men forced to the front with basically an AK and minimal training. Many units publicly speak out and share their dissatisfaction, I legit have now seen dozens of videos of Ukrainian companies making videos in protest to being sent. Some refuse to fight, some surrender, etc. You look at these man half of them are in their 30's and 40's.


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Because the world is a racial place?

Just pointing out that North Americans and Europeans are the most warlike people on Earth. How often has France been attacked by Vietnam? How often has England been attacked by India? How often has the United States been attacked by Latin American countries?

If one group of people is doing something why not call them out? The Right acts like the Left is obtuse about black people and crime. Why are some people so obtuse about this? Its real easy to grasp if you've ever checked out a history book.


White people are no more war-like than other peoples. They just stand out because they are very good at everything they do, and that includes war and conquest.

Believe me, if Vietnam or India could attack the West, they would.
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Jun 1 2022 04:39pm
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You're Incorrect. We keep huge forces in Europe so that we can be balls deep into any enemy in 48 hours. I was stationed in Germany, Conn Barracks, and was part of a rapid deployment combat arms battalion. We could get orders and have tanks in god damn Yugoslavia in 48 hours and did.

Do you not think that having the largest continent of armor in Western Europe is of benefit to the United States? Of course it benefits the United States to be able to project ground forces, not just air and sea, not just paratroopers either, but actual fucking armor pieces with cavalry support.

Our tanks are twice the size have twice the power and we could get a division of them in Ukraine by Friday night if we wanted, in time for the big game.

Its been a solid twenty years since I've served. I know the M1A2 is much better than the M1A1 I operated and I know that every other force multiplier we have has been developed as well.

You see how bad the Ukrainians are smoking the Russians with the stuff we're giving them? What until you see what we're holding back or save for ourselves.

Yes having the largest contingent of armor prepared for rapid deployment in Europe is of benefit to the United States lol.

This is only the tenth proxy war with Russia we have had in my life.


What a load of self-bloviating horse shit.

Russia is not the Enemy of the United States. In fact, they've been a trade partner since the fall of the Soviet Union, and we've went to great lengths to help them recover from the crash, and clean up some of the excesses left by their former coalition. The United States gains far more being on business friendly terms with Russia than we do with Ukraine, as does the entire rest of the world. The world at large has stake in Russia's energy, grain production, and fertilizer production, as well as their lumber industry and mining industry. What do we lose by supporting Ukraine? One of our top five trading partners on the world stage, hundreds of billions in US Defense weaponry and taxpayers dollars. What do we gain? Absolutely nothing.

The assumption that we need bases in every region so we can jump in the fight simply proves my point. The expectation among both Europeans and US war hawks is that if there's a fight, we'll either break it up or win it. Aka, we're the Nanny for a bunch of children. Nope. Europe needs to grow the fuck up, and the US Government needs to focus on the well-being of Americans. The rest of the world can sink or swim as they see fit. They aren't American Citizens. Their problems are their own.

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Jun 1 2022 04:41pm
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They're running out of generals. Units are refusing to deploy to the front lines. Putin is so desperate with his chemo ridden brain they've raised the age of conscription well into the 40s.

I can't wait for you to sing his praises when he starts sending Russian children to die to the free people of Ukraine while trying to make them slaves.

Never seen anyone so enthusiastically embrace human slavery as you lol.



This is literally just a bunch of delusional nonsense straight outta the libtard propaganda pipeline.

Learn to think for yourself because you are in for a rude awakening. Don't say I didn't warn you!
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Jun 1 2022 04:44pm
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You should really try and read some first hand sources from places like Telegram because you're painfully misinformed. Zelensky already publicly admitted that Ukraine most likely won't be able to recover some of it's territories lost to Russia. He himself admitted that they are losing between 60-100 men daily, with hundreds wounded daily. A ton of Ukrainian forces Ukraine is sending east are territorial defense forces formed after the start of the war. Not soldiers, but random men forced to the front with basically an AK and minimal training. Many units publicly speak out and share their dissatisfaction, I legit have now seen dozens of videos of Ukrainian companies making videos in protest to being sent. Some refuse to fight, some surrender, etc. You look at these man half of them are in their 30's and 40's.


Yes it sucks being invaded, and if enemy soldiers are in your yard it makes sense to shoot them to me.

Sometimes you lose fights, but home is worth fighting for IMO. So is not being a slave. Surrendering to Russia as a Ukrainian means facing execution, raping, deportation, incarceration, and death. I would rather die fighting with minimal training than that alternative.

If anything I am a classicist; I try to be informed of things today by being studied in the stories, songs, poetry, art, music, of the past. One of my favorite artists has made a painting of the situation in Ukraine between the Ukrainian people and the Russian people:



Its called Fight with Cudgels and I think about it a lot when I feel like I'm bring drawn into a situation where nobody is going to win. Can I avoid this?

At this point the Ukrainian cannot avoid the fight with cudgels. If they stop swinging they will just be hit until death. Genocide is on the table. Russians denazify cities by turning them into rubble, making that rubble bounce, and them moving in to look anything valuable that is intact. Sure there are no nazis left after that. Half of PaRD cheers it.

The Russian can't avoid the fight either. He is sent far from home, doesn't know where he is going until he learns it is Ukraine. He was told they were winning and they are getting dumpstered left and right. He is told they are fighting nazis but they are just killing civilians for the most part, thousands a day. If you try to leave Spetsnaz will shoot you. They basically have commissars from Warhammer 40k shooting you in the back if you aren't moving forward. It is common for sexual violence to be used on lower enlisted in the Russian military as discipline. Drink that in Void, in the russian army they use sexual violence as discipline. Those orcs are shoving brooms up each others bums when they get mad.

So I'm cheering for one of the guys swinging the cudgel, the one that is fighting in self defense in his home and not the orc with a broomstick being shoved up his ass.

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What a load of self-bloviating horse shit.

Russia is not the Enemy of the United States. In fact, they've been a trade partner since the fall of the Soviet Union, and we've went to great lengths to help them recover from the crash, and clean up some of the excesses left by their former coalition. The United States gains far more being on business friendly terms with Russia than we do with Ukraine, as does the entire rest of the world. The world at large has stake in Russia's energy, grain production, and fertilizer production, as well as their lumber industry and mining industry. What do we lose by supporting Ukraine? One of our top five trading partners on the world stage, hundreds of billions in US Defense weaponry and taxpayers dollars. What do we gain? Absolutely nothing.

The assumption that we need bases in every region so we can jump in the fight simply proves my point. The expectation among both Europeans and US war hawks is that if there's a fight, we'll either break it up or win it. Aka, we're the Nanny for a bunch of children. Nope. Europe needs to grow the fuck up, and the US Government needs to focus on the well-being of Americans. The rest of the world can sink or swim as they see fit. They aren't American Citizens. Their problems are their own.


If Russia isn't our enemy then why are they attacking our allies, undermining our democracy, attempting to reestablish the Soviet Union, and why else would we have the largest contingent of armor in Europe be American and pointed at them?

You're simply disconnected from reality. Maybe you got wacked with a cudgel.

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Lol you are just as wrong and delusional as Santara.


Deportation is a war crime and Russia is doing this en masse.

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Sometimes you lose fights, but home is worth fighting for IMO. So is not being a slave. Surrendering to Russia as a Ukrainian means facing execution, raping, deportation, incarceration, and death. I would rather die fighting with minimal training than that alternative.



Lol you are just as wrong and delusional as Santara.
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