Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 30 2021 03:55pm)

shooting a dying man is a crime. as should be kneeling on the neck of someone in the midst of a potentially fatal OD.

people arent dogs, u dont put them down if they eat chocolate.

Quote (bogie160 @ Mar 30 2021 03:05pm)

Was he aware that Floyd was OD'ing on fentanyl? The defense has a clear case. I don't know all the facts, so we will need to wait for our justice system to play this out, but most people (including ITT) are assuming that this is a cut and dry murder case. That certainly doesn't seem the case.

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Second-Degree Murder
Second-degree murder can be an intentional killing, but it is not as serious as first-degree murder. Second degree murder can be charged when a defendant intentionally kills another human being but the murder is not premediated. Second-degree murder may result when a person kills out of an intense emotional response or impulse. Additionally, killing someone during a drive-by shooting, killing someone during the commission of a crime that is not sexual assault or killing someone unintentionally while intended to inflict great physical harm to a victim for whom an order of protection was obtained can result in second-degree murder charges. Second-degree murder has a maximum penalty of 40 years in prison.

Quote (EndlessSky @ Mar 30 2021 03:08pm)

How many pounds of force does it take to close an airway?

Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 30 2021 04:12pm)

Chauvin is charged with 2nd degree murder:



I hope he finds it hard to demonstrate that placing your knee on someone's neck for 9 minutes while they're restrained and pinned down isn't intending to inflict great physical harm. if that counts as negligence its not a good signal to cops out there. bad snap decisions, ok, but 9 minutes is a long time. im tired of hearing how safe this is or how its done all the time. its a shit practice and shouldnt be done at all unless there's dire need. 4 on 1 doesnt present dire need when they're pinned down. throw the book at him.



idk ur mom's never had me weigh it.

Quote (18nomaUSEast @ Mar 30 2021 04:08pm)

Do you have any legal experience? Your post is quite wrong.

Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 30 2021 04:12pm)

I hope he finds it hard to demonstrate that placing your knee on someone's neck for 9 minutes while they're restrained and pinned down isn't intending to inflict great physical harm. if that counts as negligence its not a good signal to cops out there. bad snap decisions, ok, but 9 minutes is a long time. im tired of hearing how safe this is or how its done all the time. its a shit practice and shouldnt be done at all unless there's dire need. 4 on 1 doesnt present dire need when they're pinned down. throw the book at him.

Quote (bogie160 @ 30 Mar 2021 16:15)

Awful post.



It was an approved police technique at the time, so I suspect a competent lawyer should not find it that hard.

Quote (bogie160 @ Mar 30 2021 03:15pm)

Awful post.



It was an approved police technique at the time, so I suspect a competent lawyer should not find it that hard.

Quote (18nomaUSEast @ Mar 30 2021 04:21pm)

The autopsy ruled COD was asphyxiation caused (at least in part) by the hold that the cop used. If this situation was two private citizens the assailant would be found guilty of at least a lesser charge if not murder 2.

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The full Hennepin County Medical Examiner Office's (HCME) report was released shortly after, saying the cause of death was homicide by "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdural, restraint, and neck compression."

Quote (bogie160 @ 30 Mar 2021 16:29)

This is simply not accurate.

Quote (bogie160 @ Mar 30 2021 12:30pm)

The officer was using a restraining tactic which he was trained to use as a non-lethal technique. Whether you think the department was right or wrong to decide that, he had every reason to suspect that what he was doing did not present a risk to Floyd's life.