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Nov 13 2019 01:07pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Nov 13 2019 02:06pm)
That's completely ridiculous. If the bureaucracy can't be trusted to conduct itself in an impartial manner, we need them thrown out and replaced.


sure but there is no invisible force that will be that happen,

The powers that be are the powers that be for a reason.
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Nov 13 2019 01:09pm
Quote (IroningTheMaiden @ Nov 13 2019 02:07pm)
sure but there is no invisible force that will be that happen,

The powers that be are the powers that be for a reason.


We aren't talking about "the powers that be", we're talking about careers lifers who overestimate their own importance and need to be slapped back into line.
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Nov 13 2019 01:14pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Nov 13 2019 11:06am)
That's completely ridiculous. If the bureaucracy can't be trusted to conduct itself in an impartial manner, we need them thrown out and replaced.


I think almost everyone would agree with that statement. Members who are appointed but don't go through confirmation, need to be as non-partisan as possible in their work. But here's what you DON'T do. You don't go through your personal fucking attorney (who is also hyper-partisan) to skirt around the bureaucracy. I can't believe you support that...
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Nov 13 2019 01:14pm
savings lives by Giving people guns to kill other people.

These stupid republicans saying ' you didnt hear it first hand so it could be all hearsay'

ya but there are several republifags that were first hand that the WH is not letting testify.

So ridiculous, Republicans are embarassing so the human race.

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Nov 13 2019 01:20pm
Quote (thundercock @ Nov 13 2019 02:14pm)
I think almost everyone would agree with that statement. Members who are appointed but don't go through confirmation, need to be as non-partisan as possible in their work. But here's what you DON'T do. You don't go through your personal fucking attorney (who is also hyper-partisan) to skirt around the bureaucracy. I can't believe you support that...


I don't know if it's the result of years of drug abuse, Alzheimer's, or just general cognitive decline, but Giuliani should never have been trusted with any sort of authority.

But it's incredible to me that the President can't speak to a foreign leader without some bureaucratic rat scurrying off to conspire with the President's political opponents.
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Nov 13 2019 01:20pm
Republican defense.

There was no crime due to there being no delivery of the demand.

So with this logic. Asking someone to kill someone isnt a crime if the person doesn't go through with it.

I think law enforcement will disagree...
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Nov 13 2019 01:22pm
Schiff's quick debunking of all the dumb Republican talking points is pretty hilarious.
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Nov 13 2019 01:26pm
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I don't know if it's the result of years of drug abuse, Alzheimer's, or just general cognitive decline, but Giuliani should never have been trusted with any sort of authority.

But it's incredible to me that the President can't speak to a foreign leader without some bureaucratic rat scurrying off to conspire with the President's political opponents.


It's not just Giuliani as a person though. It's a private, hyper-partisan person engaging in this sort of behavior on order of the President.

In the general sense, a lot of people, including myself, would agree with the bold. The issue is if there is something unethical going on and it appears that this administration is more prone to that than others.
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Nov 13 2019 01:26pm
The Republicans cant use the embarassing and juvenile defense of 'hearsay'


WE HAVE THE FUCKING TRANSCRIPT.

There are several more witnesses that do kinow first hand that are going to testify this is the first day. what a poor defense.

Not only that but like, Stop stonewalling the first hand people then, let them testify.

You know Mulvaney is suing trump because he doesn't know if he will lose his job or be arrested if he testifies. embarassing this republican defense.

sad to see a woman standing up for Trump

lmfao

This post was edited by IroningTheMaiden on Nov 13 2019 01:32pm
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Nov 13 2019 01:30pm
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Republican defense.

There was no crime due to there being no delivery of the demand.

So with this logic. Asking someone to kill someone isnt a crime if the person doesn't go through with it.

I think law enforcement will disagree...


There's also the administration released the aid AFTER the whistle blower filed his complaint...that's an important aspect to this.
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