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Oct 18 2019 06:41am
Blumpf is a true patriot! He's will save america!
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Quote (Plaguefear @ 18 Oct 2019 04:44)
About the level of reply i expect from you.
My family came to australia from germany in the 1930's, they fought in world war 2, against the nazi party.
I lost 2 great uncles in world war 2, i am named after one of them.
Nazis are not something you tolerate, they are something you exterminate.
If antifa were attacking actual neo nazis they would have my full support.

did your chinese cousin mate tell you this story? bet they aced 50 iq tests like you said you did too and the national-socialist party burned the results
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Oct 18 2019 07:05am
on one hand this is absurd and unconstitutional.

on the other hand i have the same opinion of conservatives groups in seattle as i do of them in Berkley. you walk into a hotbed for action, not peace and calm discussion. these groups are there for a fight, so while i dont like the lack of crime cited to carry out the order i have no doubt that just about any political group in seattle is capable of violence and the idea of members concealed carrying at a protest and counter protest is scary af.
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Quote (Ghot @ Oct 17 2019 10:48pm)
He clearly said with rapid "due process". According to the NYTimes article, there was no due process involved. Also, it was not the feds that took his guns, but Washington State.


that idiot doesnt even know what due process means..
How could he describe "rapid unknown thing"

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Oct 18 2019 07:39am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 18 2019 06:46am)
If you are driving then presenting a drivers license isnt unreasonable and is required in all 50 states. Stop and ID laws where the standard is you are suspected of a crime exist in 24 states and only apply if you arent driving. Additionally cops arent required to disclose if you are suspected or what of.

Ghot is actually right on this one, the side of the road isnt a court.


Since when? If that were true, the internet wouldn't be chock full of videos of drivers refusing to identify themselves when stopped unless the police legally justify the stop. The side of the road may not be a court, but that doesn't mean you are also compelled to surrender your rights. If it's a Terry stop, you have to ID yourself, and that guy clearly appeared willing to do so as soon as it was determined he was subject to a Terry stop. The cop wouldn't oblige, and the driver should have then and there demanded his supervisor.
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Quote (theCrossbones @ Oct 18 2019 09:08am)
that idiot doesnt even know what due process means..
How could he describe "rapid unknown thing"


Due process literally means writing it on a memo and having a meeting about it.
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Oct 18 2019 07:54am
republicans at it again. defending the 2a

"Florida Republican proposes gun reform measure limiting who can purchase assault rifles"


https://www.wftv.com/news/9-investigates/florida-republican-proposes-gun-reform-measure-limiting-who-can-purchase-assault-rifles/997409057
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Quote (Santara @ Oct 18 2019 08:39am)
Since when? If that were true, the internet wouldn't be chock full of videos of drivers refusing to identify themselves when stopped unless the police legally justify the stop. The side of the road may not be a court, but that doesn't mean you are also compelled to surrender your rights. If it's a Terry stop, you have to ID yourself, and that guy clearly appeared willing to do so as soon as it was determined he was subject to a Terry stop. The cop wouldn't oblige, and the driver should have then and there demanded his supervisor.


Since the introduction of driver's licenses. There is no violation of rights when you are asked to produce a driver's license.

The internet is chock full of unreasonable people, "I see people do it on the internet" is hardly a way to find if something is reasonable, and honestly I'd be pretty embarrassed to have made that argument.
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Quote (MaliceMizer @ Oct 18 2019 08:54am)
republicans at it again. defending the 2a
"Florida Republican proposes gun reform measure limiting who can purchase assault rifles"
https://www.wftv.com/news/9-investigates/florida-republican-proposes-gun-reform-measure-limiting-who-can-purchase-assault-rifles/997409057


Personally, I care less about the 2nd amendment than the 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th & 7th
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 18 2019 08:55am)
Since the introduction of driver's licenses. There is no violation of rights when you are asked to produce a driver's license.

The internet is chock full of unreasonable people, "I see people do it on the internet" is hardly a way to find if something is reasonable, and honestly I'd be pretty embarrassed to have made that argument.


There's a long list of precedent on being pulled over just to show ID. that's not a reasonable stop. "reasonable" isn't strictly opinion, it's defined by a trail of precedent.

you can't be pulled over for no reason, and you can't be told to show id simply for being pulled over, if there's no reason to have been pulled over in the first place.

terry stops require reasonable suspicion, again we see reasonable used in a legally defined way, not up to the discretion of the officer.

i may be misunderstanding you but are you suggesting that since someone is driving it should be reasonable to be stopped just to show ID?

lastly the people Santara is talking about aren't all wierdo free travelers, many are people who know their rights and the video ends with the cop leaving without getting ID.

Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 18 2019 08:57am)
Personally, I care less about the 2nd amendment than the 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th & 7th


>doesnt mention 14th
>goomshill racist

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