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Jun 1 2022 02:29pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Jun 1 2022 01:28pm)
All that had to be done to avoid this war was for Biden to give assurances to Russia back in December when Russia came to us with their ultimatum that we would not seek for Ukraine to join NATO.

That is literally it. And tens of thousands of lives would have been saved.

But nope "muH oPeN DooR poLiCY" was the excuse Biden used to push for war in Ukraine.


Honestly I don't think Biden cares about Ukranian lives.
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Jun 1 2022 02:31pm
Quote (theCrossbones @ Jun 1 2022 02:29pm)
Sorry that you think Putins "wish list" gives him the right to invade other countries.


Yes and if the shoe was on the other foot the US would have invaded Mexico or Canada if Russia was trying to get them to join a Russia/China-led military alliance.

Why is fairness in geopolitical dealings so much to ask for? We always want our cake and to eat it too. It's pathetic.
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Jun 1 2022 02:33pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Jun 1 2022 01:31pm)
Yes and if the shoe was on the other foot the US would have invaded Mexico or Canada if Russia was trying to get them to join a Russia/China-led military alliance.

Why is fairness in geopolitical dealings so much to ask for? We always want our cake and to eat it too. It's pathetic.


If CAN and RU wanted to align it doesn't make bombing Canadians ok.. I know this is hard, but think it through.
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Jun 1 2022 02:35pm
Quote (theCrossbones @ Jun 1 2022 02:33pm)
If CAN and RU wanted to align it doesn't make bombing Canadians ok.. I know this is hard, but think it through.


And yet our government would do it anyway, declaring it a threat to national security.

See how that works?
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Jun 1 2022 02:37pm
Quote (theCrossbones @ Jun 1 2022 10:29pm)
Sorry that you think Putins "wish list" gives him the right to invade other countries.


Are you really that dumb crossbones? We're talking international politics on the highest level. Saying fuck you we're the good guys and you bad ain't gonna work, lol
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Jun 1 2022 02:39pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Jun 1 2022 03:27pm)
Heh, speak for yourself


Just because you work for a Russian troll farm doesn't mean you're sitting down with Foreign Ministers or Secretaries of State.
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Jun 1 2022 02:39pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 1 Jun 2022 19:32)
you are right overall, but thats not how things work unfortunately

the US almost triggered the next great war over missiles on cuba and in a theoretical scenario, where the chinese set up military bases in mexico, they would stop that immediately no matter what


Soviet missiles in Cuba were a reaction to the deployment of US nukes in Turkey. The level of provocation/escalation by NATO in the case of the Cuban missile crisis exceeds whatever they have done in the case of Ukraine by several magnitudes.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jun 1 2022 02:40pm
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Jun 1 2022 02:41pm
Quote (Djunior @ Jun 1 2022 01:37pm)
Are you really that dumb crossbones? We're talking international politics on the highest level. Saying fuck you we're the good guys and you bad ain't gonna work, lol


really? My stance is killing people over political alignment isn't acceptable. From RU or from the US.
Sorry that makes me "stupid" lawl
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Jun 1 2022 02:47pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Jun 1 2022 03:01pm)
Absolutely wrong. Russia is using less than 10% of their military in Ukraine.

If they wanted to, they could open up another front in Poland, Moldova and Romania at the same time if they wanted, and still only use around 50% (or less) of their military forces.

It should also be noted that Ukraine had the biggest army in Europe and they have already been neutered to the point they cannot even engage in serious counter offensives. Now imagine what Russia could do to a country with an even smaller military than Ukraine.

Your anti-Russian bias is hilarious.


Spin.

INITIAL troop levels were approximately 1/6 of the total Russian military - including naval and air forces (140,000 out of 900,000). Since then, they've experienced massive casualties and had to draw fresh troops from across the empire to reconstitute combat-effective units (a loss of 1/3 of a unit's manpower is generally considered a depleted and non-functional unit). Their armored spearheads have been so shattered that videos of Russian trains carrying ancient T62s for replacements are all over the internet. Russia does not have the logistical support to change force posture to war with NATO.

Your pro-Russian bias would be hilarious, if it wasn't actually sad.

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Quote (Surfpunk @ Jun 1 2022 02:39pm)
Just because you work for a Russian troll farm doesn't mean you're sitting down with Foreign Ministers or Secretaries of State.


BZZZZT, wrong. Try again.

I'll give you a hint: True power comes from within. It is possible to have influence via other means having to do with understanding of the inner subconscious realms.
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