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May 31 2022 03:53pm
Quote (ferdia @ 31 May 2022 22:36)
1) selling basic arms and ammunition will at this point not help ukraine. if they gave them the long range weapons (the ability to directly attack russia) for sure ukraine would do that. america probably knows this which is why they wont sell/give in fear of a step too far. Therefore, I do not understand the US logic re: Ukraine. If they are not giving ukraine the tools (which they have) to beat russia, conventionally, then what was the whole point of giving ukraine military and financial aid for the last 8 years ?? it makes no sense at all. can someone please try to explain what the US plan is because at this point i dont get it. have they changed their mind ?
2) OK well, I wish i will win the euro millions but without buying a ticket (read; having long range weapons) thats 0% chance at this point.
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it remains to be seen as to the merits of putting european security in the hands of europe noting there is no 1 country stepping up as being "first among equals" to guide europe (not germany, not france, and england is out now). In such a scenario its more likely that politically they would fracture and therefore its Nato (read: america) that still calls the shots. very confusing and mixed messages...


My friend, Ukrainians destroyed like 1000 Russian tanks already.
Its 1/3 of what Russians had.
So the current arms are doing fine.
But 1000 is not enough. They want Ukrainians to kill another 1000 Russian tanks. To reduce the Russian army so much, that it never rebuilds. Or at least not in the next lets say 15years. That's why they keep sending Ukrainians ammunition.
Time is Ukraine ally, both sides are bleeding, but Russia is bleeding at faster pace currently. We can expect Ukrainian counter offensive in the summer.
Please note it doesnt mean that everything goes smooth and easy.
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May 31 2022 04:02pm
Quote (Skinned @ May 31 2022 04:29pm)
Amber Heard lost. The fake crying over the fake trauma is a lot. She is literally an actress that can't fake cry, wtf, and watching her fake cry with no tears was eye roll inducing. It seems like she made up things like being raped with a bottle and I don't know why someone would do that but I have a very different kind of personality disorder than her I suppose. The psychologist of her's said he did a mental status exam on him based in his movie performance in PotC...what? and it looked like he had tardive dyskinesia or something with all that weird mouth stuff. He was the best part because as a profession psychologists are really fucking weird and he was looking at everyone like they were dumb and just not getting what he was saying when he was just weird and what he was doing was meaningless.

Johnny Depp seems to have the usual constellation of bullshit that orbits every alcoholic and party drug user but nothing suggested he is a domestic abuser, just someone who doesn't take care of himself very well.

The fake crying was a lot. I work in acute crisis stabilization and I'm pretty good at figuring out real crying, seizures, pain, withdraw, etc. It just jumps out. That crying was so fake it hit everyone's bullshit meter. She was just making faces for awhile. She described a relationship she said was traumatic as "soft and velvety". That isn't the language you use about an abusive relationship.

For the record I don't care about this hearing, but people at work were and talking about it a lot and I just seen a lot of clips because people have been playing it around me. The people interested in it are more interesting than the trial IMO.


Doing cocaine in court on camera probably didn't help either.
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May 31 2022 04:02pm
Quote (Ironfister @ May 31 2022 09:53pm)
My friend, Ukrainians destroyed like 1000 Russian tanks already.
Its 1/3 of what Russians had.
So the current arms are doing fine.
But 1000 is not enough. They want Ukrainians to kill another 1000 Russian tanks. To reduce the Russian army so much, that it never rebuilds. Or at least not in the next lets say 15years. That's why they keep sending Ukrainians ammunition.
Time is Ukraine ally, both sides are bleeding, but Russia is bleeding at faster pace currently. We can expect Ukrainian counter offensive in the summer.
Please note it doesnt mean that everything goes smooth and easy.


They weren't destroyed. Looking at Oryx's figures of the 741 recorded Russian tank losses, 306 (41%) were found abandoned by their crews. Many of the destroyed tanks on the list were also abandoned and destroyed by UA forces who could not capture them. >50% of Russia's tank losses may have been abandoned, which points to poor logistics and planning rather than stellar Ukrainian defense. The Russians weren't told they were going into war and fought as such, but it looks like they're learning from mistakes and making incremental gains despite significant losses at the start of the war. This points to Ukrainian forces being severely attritioned
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May 31 2022 04:20pm
A quick analysis whether we can expect soon end of war or not.
Ukrainian citizens dont want a deal that includes giving up territory to Russia.
Russia probably doesnt want a deal that forces them to go back to their 24february positions, they would like to keep their advancements.
Americans wants more Russian tanks and other Russian army destroyed.
Given that, the war will continue for a while, unless something changes.
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May 31 2022 04:49pm
well that we can agree on anyway.
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May 31 2022 05:31pm
Quote (Ironfister @ May 31 2022 04:20pm)
A quick analysis whether we can expect soon end of war or not.
Ukrainian citizens dont want a deal that includes giving up territory to Russia.
Russia probably doesnt want a deal that forces them to go back to their 24february positions, they would like to keep their advancements.
Americans wants more Russian tanks and other Russian army destroyed.
Given that, the war will continue for a while, unless something changes.


Ukrainian citizens not wanting to give up territory is pretty much irrelevant.

Like, they aren't going to be able to take back the territory they've lost. Donbass and Crimea have both been permanently lost for 8 years. Now they want to pretend they can suddenly get them back while their army is getting crushed on the daily? Please
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May 31 2022 05:47pm
In other news, two pregnant women were killed by Ukrainian army shelling yesterday.

On top of that a 5 year old child was killed in Makeevka by a Western-provided shell to the Ukrainian military.

The more civilians Ukraine kills in Donbass, the more it becomes apparent that Russia's military operation was necessary to finally put a stop to it.

Sooner or later the Ukrainian army will be pushed out of artillery range of DPR/LPR, and then these atrocities will finally be stopped for good.
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May 31 2022 08:05pm
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Ukrainian citizens not wanting to give up territory is pretty much irrelevant.

Like, they aren't going to be able to take back the territory they've lost. Donbass and Crimea have both been permanently lost for 8 years. Now they want to pretend they can suddenly get them back while their army is getting crushed on the daily? Please


It matters if they decide they're not done fighting, dope.
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May 31 2022 11:33pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ 1 Jun 2022 01:31)
Ukrainian citizens not wanting to give up territory is pretty much irrelevant.

Like, they aren't going to be able to take back the territory they've lost. Donbass and Crimea have both been permanently lost for 8 years. Now they want to pretend they can suddenly get them back while their army is getting crushed on the daily? Please


Part of donbass is still in Ukrainian hands, like 30%.
I believe Ukrainians mostly want return to 24february borders.
Their army is crushed daily only in Russian social channels :)
I dont know if UA can win back territories, its more difficult to attack than to defend.
Its possible Russia wont be able to continue war any longer, and so it will be forced to accept Ukraine terms and retreat to Russia. We dont know that.

Quote (chopstickz777 @ 1 Jun 2022 01:47)
In other news, two pregnant women were killed by Ukrainian army shelling yesterday.

On top of that a 5 year old child was killed in Makeevka by a Western-provided shell to the Ukrainian military.

The more civilians Ukraine kills in Donbass, the more it becomes apparent that Russia's military operation was necessary to finally put a stop to it.

Sooner or later the Ukrainian army will be pushed out of artillery range of DPR/LPR, and then these atrocities will finally be stopped for good.


I already told you how it works, Russian army makes Ukrainian citizens say that it was UA army that hurt them. Dont accept what Russia propaganda says you, lol.

This post was edited by Ironfister on May 31 2022 11:34pm
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Quote (Ironfister @ Jun 1 2022 07:33am)
Part of donbass is still in Ukrainian hands, like 30%.
I believe Ukrainians mostly want return to 24february borders.
Their army is crushed daily only in Russian social channels :)
I dont know if UA can win back territories, its more difficult to attack than to defend.
Its possible Russia wont be able to continue war any longer, and so it will be forced to accept Ukraine terms and retreat to Russia. We dont know that.



I already told you how it works, Russian army makes Ukrainian citizens say that it was UA army that hurt them. Dont accept what Russia propaganda says you, lol.



russian army makes ukrainian say...

you mean: US army makes nonwestern world say they want live same shitty „democratic“ shitlife like we do? no?
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