I really doubt that the Ukrainian high command is so incompetent that they allow their best troops to get encircled and wiped out just like that, not when the threat of said encirclement has been looming for weeks. Imho, they are prepared for it and will know when to pull out. The bigger question is if they can win the big battle, the one that's gonna be fought for Slovjansk/Kramatorsk in 1-3 weeks.

The current battles over Sieverodonetsk were just the prelude; and a battle that the Ukrainians were always going to lose eventually. Defending this salient which was surrounded by Russian-controlled territory on three sides was an impossible task from the get go. Imho, the main strategic objective for the Ukrainians in Sieverodonetsk was to slow and wear down the Russian advance. Not sure if they slowed them down "enough" though.


In general, it's really hard to assess how a war is going when the battles are fought with a static front and lots of attrition on both sides. In the early stages of this war, we could use territory as a proxy for military success, but that's no longer a useful metric, now that the war has shifted to a small-scale area.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on May 31 2022 06:17am

Germany doesnt really like Ukraine, as they consider them a risk to German domination in the Europe. So they kind of little bit support Ukraine in a humanitarian way, but they dont really want them to be safe, to prosper.

Also its a single journalist opinion, a clickbait header saying "extremists", in a free speech Europe, its not really "official".

yea thats looks to be the case right now. its quite tricky to tell either way, i dont fully understand what the US strategy is right now.



i dont agree with that.

This post was edited by ferdia on May 31 2022 07:01am

News from polish war commentators:
-Ukraine will probably loose Siewierodonieck, which is a ruined city now, but it came at a big cost to Russian army, and so its expected to be the last big success of the Russian army.
-Ukraine receives artillery from NATO not because they dont have their own artillery, they have plenty, but because there are not many ammunition manufacturers in western world that can make ammunition for Ukraine artillery, which is not NATO compatible.
-There will be a huge security rework in Europe. Germany failed its role as a security leader in Europe. Also NATO-Russia 1997year deal was broken by Russia and is no longer binding.
As a result, NATO bases will start appearing in Poland and other central Europe countries.
Also Europe needs to take responsibility for their security, as USA will move their focus to pacific area.

Excellent news.

Biden recently announced that they would not supply Ukraine with MLRS (multiple rocket launcher system) that are able to strike within Russia. That was something the Russians made clear was a red line and an escalation of the current war. They'll still get some systems but basically the reduced capability ones that unfortunately won't be able to compete with the Russian onslaught. I think this pretty much seals the fact that Ukraine won't be able to take back much of the territory it has lost and more and more people are starting to acknowledge this ,Zelensky being for example.

I mentioned this before, the number one reason why Russians are winning is because their clear cut artillery superiority. That's what wins conventional ground wars. It allows your forces to grind down enemy strongholds without losing tons of men. Grads/Uragan/Buratino systems are extremely effective and destructive, and we've heard 1st hand accounts from tons of Ukrainians troops at the front saying that they're getting pounded day and night and their rpgs and small arms really can't do anything against large systems.

As of now I see some sources saying that Severodonesk is at least 2/3 under Russian control. Realistically Ukrainian troops need to pull back even further than Lysychansk and reinforce Bakhmut and Siversk.

Lol bro did you even try to spell that?

The city is called Severodonetsk, and it's already 75% lost. The remaining Ukrainians in the town are frantically fleeing and trying to get out before they slaughtered by artillery.

Oh great, fucking Ivan is back cheerleading the murder of civilians.

You losers got me banned for posting telegram links. How utterly cowardly.

Anyway, Europe continues to commit seppuku to virtue signal for Nazi Ukraine:

Record inflation devours the European economy — experts predict more than 8% by the end of May

According to the European Statistical Agency, inflation has caused a 40% increase in the price of energy products from Russia. The highest level of inflation is observed in the Baltic States - up to 18.5%.

Europeans are already feeling the fall of the economy today - 25% of Germans assess their situation as "emergency", and one in four Britons admits that they live "from hand to mouth".


25% of Germans and Britons headed straight to irreversible poverty. Totally worth it am I right guys?