Tell me when I called Ukrainians "neo-nazies" and I will apologize. Azov are neo-nazies, officially.

I call them Nazis
I generally avoid "Neo-Nazis", because I think it has a different implication. The distinction being that Ukrainian Nazis are rooted in historical loyalties to the Third Reich and active participation in the holocaust, whereas American or other western Neo-Nazis don't have historical roots with real Nazis. There's some discontinuity in the Nazidom of Ukraine, its not like the Azov Battalion existed in 1941 in its present form, but there's a vague lineage and clear channeling of their ancestor Nazis and Nazi collaborators.

but mostly because the moment they started deploying desperate child soldiers and committing war crimes on top of being Nazis, they really ticked all the boxes in my mind. American Neo-Nazis might as well be LARPers by comparison

This post was edited by Goomshill on May 31 2022 12:45am

No, they are not neo-nazies, prove me otherwise

Okay but only when you are not busy reporting black crime.



Definitely not, but you can put his half-russian nose into wiki explaining clearly what it was and what is it now, he will probably involve his right to support loot, rape, murder* are a "liberation".

/e *And schools shelling.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on May 31 2022 03:55am

widespread universal social welfare. Improvements in public health and education, provision of child care, provision of state-directed social services, and provision of social benefits will, theoretically, help to raise labor productivity and advance a society in its development.

welcome your thoughts on that!

In terms of Nazi / Neo-Nazi, whatever expression you use, for sure they are going to cause long term problems for Ukraine.

My cousin once told me:
"OMG why these dentists make so much money, that's not fair"
I answered to her: "Hey, why havent you became a dentist then?"
She said me: "what, its terrible job to dig in people mouth"
And here is the key. People need to be paid more for working heavy and unpleasant, rather than do plaesant jobs or stay on social.
So you cant do too much social.
On the other hand, if you want to build a country where people form a society, where they vote wisely for a politician that is best for whole country, where they care about each other and like each other you need some kind of social services and solidarity between richer and poorer people. Even if the richer will call that a robbery, which is not really 100% true as their income is partially because of their hard work, but partially because the country is giving them basic resources, like workers, and safety. There is also some luck, some people were just more lucky than the other.
I work in IT, I earn three times more money than average person in my country. I dont have a problem paying taxes, and distributing part of my money to others.
As long as I still get to keep a large part of it, that makes me still richer than those who get help.
That's the right balance if you ask me.

This post was edited by Ironfister on May 31 2022 04:25am

Deutsche Welle

https://www.dw.com/en/the-azov-battalion-extremists-defending-mariupol/a-61151151

I wasn't following the discussion over here due to lack of time or busy schedule. Ukraine is about to lose the war or better said most of its professional army. I've got the same info from my Russian neighbour and my female Ukrainian college at work. I don't know where they get their information from but most of the time they're more on point than the whole press.

This post was edited by babun1024 on May 31 2022 05:39am

Gonna be a shocker to most of the West cuz so far MSM has only presented us "news" of tens of thousands dead Russian soldiers, almost all of their tanks, planes and helicopters destroyed, most of their warships sunk, very effective Ukrainian counter-offensives pushing the Russians out and so on. Most of the time without mentioning any Ukrainian losses, only mentioning dead civilians.

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With no kids inside, great.

This post was edited by Norlander on May 31 2022 06:16am