That is do no harm, not treat everyone regardless of circumstance.

If a disease kills a person it is the disease.

This is the difference between passive and active euthanasia.

Passive euthanasia is not doing harm, it's doing nothing.

We have EMTALA.

This post was edited by Skinned on Dec 30 2021 04:13pm

Actively not taking measures to try to help someone falls in the same boat as do no harm, IMO.

It's the same rationale I use to argue against the whole "compelling someone's labor" with regard to universal health care.

This post was edited by Surfpunk on Dec 30 2021 04:14pm

You must not like hospice very much, since they're killing all those dying people.

This post was edited by Skinned on Dec 30 2021 04:14pm

Now you're just being obtuse, and you know it.

This post was edited by Surfpunk on Dec 30 2021 04:14pm

meanwhile in my area in northern germany thousands of people who attended nightclubs during the christmas days are supposed to go into quarantine due to hundreds of infections

every single person was fully vaxxed/freshly recovered AND brought a negative test that was done on the same day

this stuff is working really well

Omicron is not twice as transmissible as delta, it's outcompeting Delta at a rate which would theoretically correspond to a reproduction rate which is twice as high. Its growth advantage over Delta is based on significant immune escape (vaccinations and prior infections dampening the spread of Omicron much less than that of Delta), a shorter generation time and perhaps some smallish innate transmission advantage.

If Omicron obtained all it's growth advantage over Delta purely from a higher transmissibility, its base reproduction number (R0) would have to be in the 30s or so and would make it the most contagious disease in existence by a wide margin, which is completely unrealistic.





Pretty much, yeah. What will be interesting to see is how long an unchecked Omicron wave will keep going up. The OG wave in South Africa started coming down after a surprisingly short amount of time and without notable countermeasures in place. IF (and that's not a given) a similar pattern emerges in the global north as well, that would effectively be the end of this shit.




Meh. That vaccines which were developed with and designed for the original Wuhan strain are no longer working two years later when we're 4 VOCs into the future is neither surprising nor a general indictment of the vaccines. At the end of the day, relying entirely on the vaccines' protection against transmission was never a realistic idea. The vaccines are still providing a very strong protection against hospitalization and death, so sufficiently high uptake would still chase away the spectre of an overwhelmed healthcare system, even if we let case numbers soar.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Dec 30 2021 05:17pm

yes and no, there is no doubt the vaccines prevent serious cases well enough for vulnerable people

however i am not gonna play the game of polticians, media and pharma industry that the vaccines are working as intended, because this is just wrong

the mastermind and creator of the biontech/pfizer himself claimed that two shots would provide long term protection and slow the spread by 95%

none of that was even remotely true before mutations came into play and their solution is to make people take more of the same

with omicron the narrative is slowly collapsing and the new 5 day quarantine without pcr test rule is basically a capitulation, that shows how absurd most measures have been so far

covid is now endemic and it was always inevitable

People are arguing about corona on this forum? Holy moly. You have to much time. Go work boys.

you ought to do more research on so called "vaccine" and less time having a REEEEE fit on some ones topic title
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