Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 27 May 2022 15:53)

Our Polish friend is on too much Vodka today.
He is lecturing me on a place where I have been.

1. Staying for 11 years
2. Went to protest and watch everything unfold.
3. Found out personally with my Protestor friends that there are a significant amount of foreign interference.
4. That I know about the Sino-British Declaration on Hong Kong.
5. That we know some of these protestors wanted Hong Kong to be a independent nation.
6. That they tried to destroyed the cities like BLM.
7. That this protestors excommunicated families and friends who have a different or neutral opinion.
8. That Hong Kong doesn't have a national security law that prevents foreign interference for as long as we know until recently.
9. That those imprison in China for freaking less than 24 months and with remission is already out and they violated the China law when their escape boats are in Chinese controlled territory and seas when they are caught
10. Tons of guns and rifles and homemade bombs " terrorist" style is being planted in bins around the island.
11. And he doesn't know shit about the 50 year grace period.
12. And talking so much shit that he know what the basic law is.

Also his idea of freedom is appearing to me like a BLM activist. Maybe we should import some LBGTQ pro plus HDTV and BLM to Poland and let's see if he can still talk about Freedom.

Quote (Ironfister @ May 28 2022 07:43am)

Are we talking about the same BLM? "Black lives matters"?
How is that destroying cities? They just dont want racism, lol.
I personally dont have any problem with Black people or lgbtq, two of my high school colleges were gay, and we are still friends on Facebook.
Unfortunately one of them left Poland for Ireland, partially because our country is not as much lgbtq friendly yet. One of the problems is the catholic religion, which still in XXI century says its a sin to have a gay love.
80% of people here dont really give a shit about some old religion rules from ancient times, but remaining 20% does and its not very friendly for LGBT. We really need to work on it as a country, but its not really that easy because we cant just ban religion, lol.

Anyway you should also work on your tolerance towards LGBT and Black people. Dont be a racist, lol.

Quote (Ironfister @ May 28 2022 09:05am)

I have read a very wise press article today.
It said, that NATO must provide supplies, money and arms to Ukraine, so that they can defend themselves.
The reason is because this is a conventional war, as Ukraine doesnt have nukes to defend themselves.
If NATO doesnt do it, and Ukraine losses, the next war will be between NATO and Russia.
A war between two nuclear powers.
Even if it starts conventional, a war between nuclear powers has a huge risk to go nuclear sooner or later.
We cannot let that happen.
We need to help Ukraine defend themselves, to prevent that, and avoid nuclear war in the future.
This is serious.

Quote (ferdia @ 28 May 2022 10:09)

this to my mind was not a good post. you believe that russia is expansionist. they really are not.

Quote (Ironfister @ May 28 2022 09:12am)

Sure, they arent, and they get into Ukraine by mistake.
GPS navigation error?

Quote (ferdia @ 28 May 2022 10:15)

it has been well documented throughout this thread, all the way back to the first pages as to why russia invaded. i am not trying to convince you. ultimately russia invaded, this is an act of war and here we are. if you dont understand the reasons for this war you could consider reading a bit more about it.

Quote (Ironfister @ May 28 2022 09:37am)

A villain dictator will always make up an excuse.
For example when nazi Germany attacked Poland in 1939, they said we attacked them first. Of course this wasnt true,.but that was an excuse for western people like you, who will accept any excuse to get a peace deal at all cost. It doesnt work with dictators, they are not interested in peace, they are not like you.
In the XVIII century Russia demanded 1/3 of our territory.
We gave it to them, as we didnt want war with a stronger neighbour.
Guess what, you will never believe it, peace only lasted couple years and 5 years later they demanded another part. And after another 5 years, they took the rest, the Poland was no more.
Nobody will ever say "we are the bad people", because its not in their interests, and since they are villains, they dont really care about saying truth.

Quote (Ironfister @ 28 May 2022 11:37)

A villain dictator will always make up an excuse.
For example when nazi Germany attacked Poland in 1939, they said we attacked them first. Of course this wasnt true,.but that was an excuse for western people like you, who will accept any excuse to get a peace deal at all cost. It doesnt work with dictators, they are not interested in peace, they are not like you.
In the XVIII century Russia demanded 1/3 of our territory.
We gave it to them, as we didnt want war with a stronger neighbour.
Guess what, you will never believe it, peace only lasted couple years and 5 years later they demanded another part. And after another 5 years, they took the rest, the Poland was no more.
Nobody will ever say "we are the bad people", because its not in their interests, and since they are villains, they dont really care about saying truth.

Quote (ferdia @ 28 May 2022 10:55)

sorry you lost me at nazi germany, again.

Quote (Norlander @ 28 May 2022 11:14)

What villain dictator forced Poland to invade Moscow in Time of Troubles (Tsardom crysis, 1609) and to attack fresh-formed USSR in 1919?