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Nov 20 2019 06:04pm
Quote (Skinned @ Nov 20 2019 05:58pm)
People who call themselves Independent are embarrassed Republicans half the time lol.


The Republican party has become the far more moderate party in recent years. Which is more appealing to many independents and moderates.

The Democratic party has gone towards the other end - closer to socialism/communistic ideas, esp. amongst their bigger names who take up the most of the spotlight.

I actually think all of the Democrats actions as a whole have been pretty damaging to them. It's becoming a fragmented party. Even Obama has said they've gone too far left. For example, all of the Dem candidates supporting open border policies? That is not a moderate stance on a popular debated issue.

I could see the potential for a steady flux of Republican presidents to come for a while because of this.

I do like Tulsi Gabbard however, she's actually pretty moderate. I think she could do some good things. But I don't see her winning the primary unfortunately.

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Nov 20 2019 06:08pm
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People who call themselves Independent are embarrassed Republicans half the time lol.

>Independent candidates are Republicans
>everything i dont like is a Republican
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Nov 20 2019 06:20pm
I have the hots for Ms. Cooper. :D


/e But she definitely needs better glasses.

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Nov 20 2019 06:50pm
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The newly re-elected prime minster of the country where Don Cherry is from spent more of his 20s and young 30s in blackface than not

not sure how your post relates to the impeachment inquiry but okay



I legitimately don't understand the blackface thing. Why can't we dress up as characters that happen to be another race? I don't quite understand this one or maybe I'm insensitive by todays standards.

Ps I did not vote for Trudeau.

My post relates because from the little bits I've heard on Canadian radio when I don't switch stations seems like there is more than enough evidence to get the impeachment done, let alone the crap he says publicly it's unreal someone like that would actually be elected.
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I legitimately don't understand the blackface thing. Why can't we dress up as characters that happen to be another race? I don't quite understand this one or maybe I'm insensitive by todays standards.

Ps I did not vote for Trudeau.

My post relates because from the little bits I've heard on Canadian radio when I don't switch stations seems like there is more than enough evidence to get the impeachment done, let alone the crap he says publicly it's unreal someone like that would actually be elected.


In some countries you can.in America. and I guess canada you cant because they used to do it to make fun of blacks. Look into the history a bit and it makes sense
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Nov 20 2019 07:00pm
It still amazes me how virtually all information flowing out of Ukraine has to pass through disinformation filters that make it impossible to tell whats going on, whether its western or russian propaganda.
We still don't know what really happened with the Manafort dossier, but that seems quaint when we don't even know what's going on with the Burisma investigation, and we've got NBC, ZeroHedge and Reuters running conflicting stories;

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-burisma/ukraine-widens-probe-against-burisma-founder-to-embezzlement-of-state-funds-idUSKBN1XU2N7
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukrainian-indictment-reveals-hunter-biden-group-made-165-million-mp
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/sondland-testified-misleading-ukraine-story-spread-among-conservatives-social-media-n1087511

NBC is claiming its all propaganda and fake and nothing is true and right-wing outlets and Russia are making up fake news;
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The incorrect story, first disseminated by the finance blog ZeroHedge, claimed that Mykola Zlochevsky, the head of Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company, had been indicted over money laundering related to the Biden family. Hunter Biden, son of former Vice President Joe Biden, was previously on Burisma’s board of directors.


Zero Hedge is claiming that there is a leaked document from inside the Ukrainian prosecutor's office alleging a wide-ranging money laundering probe with Hunter Biden et al named in a draft indictment;
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An indictment drawn up by Ukraine's Office of the Prosecutor General against Burisma owner Nikolai Zlochevsky claims that Hunter Biden and his partners received $16.5 million for their 'services' - according to Ukrainian MP Alexander Dubinsky of the ruling Servant of the People Party.

Dubinsky made the claim in a Wednesday press conference, citing materials from an investigation into Zlochevsky and Burisma.

"Zlochevsky was charged with this new accusation by the Office of the Prosecutor General but the press ignored it," said the MP. "It was issued on November 14."


Meanwhile Reuters reported just that the Ukrainian prosecutor general's office has widened the investigation into Burisma and Zlochevsky to include embezzling state funds- but only states a document was leaked by 3 other Ukrainian lawmakers, not verifying that document or its contents;

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Ukraine has widened its investigation into the founder of energy company Burisma to include suspicion of embezzling state funds, Prosecutor General Ruslan Ryaboshapka said on Wednesday.

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Ryaboshapka was speaking after being asked about a document from the general prosecutor’s office that was leaked at a separate press conference by three lawmakers earlier on Wednesday.

The document, only part of which was visible, showed Kulyk suspected Zlochevsky of offences including using his official position to embezzle 800 million hryvnias ($33 million) of money belonging to the central bank.

The investigation is effectively on hold, however, because the Ukrainian authorities cannot determine Zlochevsky’s whereabouts.


As usual, I'd say the truth is probably somewhere in the middle: NBC is clearly putting out propaganda and fake news designed to attack Trump, while Zero Hedge is getting ahead of itself in its rush to defend Trump by taking the leaks without determining their true context- but probably real. And Reuters is just trying to do actual, cautious and responsible reporting and is taking fire from NBC because they reported on facts that are helping Trump.
The more detailed reporting I've heard suggests that the document and draft indictment are real, but were leaked by either pro-Trump or trying-to-pander-to-get-Trump's-support Ukrainian lawmakers, and its not clear whether its just a draft with no legal power or something they intend to make official. Or just fabricated. And at the same time, its clear that the "legitimate" prosecutor general is indeed holding a press conference to say he's expanding the investigation into Burisma, which makes it absurd while NBC's attempts to say "nothing to see here folks"

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Nov 20 2019 07:06pm
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I legitimately don't understand the blackface thing. Why can't we dress up as characters that happen to be another race? I don't quite understand this one or maybe I'm insensitive by todays standards.

Ps I did not vote for Trudeau.

My post relates because from the little bits I've heard on Canadian radio when I don't switch stations seems like there is more than enough evidence to get the impeachment done, let alone the crap he says publicly it's unreal someone like that would actually be elected.


i dont make these rules - lefties do. didnt mean to insinuate that you voted for him

a lefty like Trudeau cries about social issues and then it gets exposed he is in blackface more than he is not is just a funny situation

Sure they can impeach Trump for this, the (D) party had all the evidence to do so a long time ago per them

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Nov 20 2019 07:13pm
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As usual, I'd say the truth is probably somewhere in the middle


Sorry for cutting the others parts of your post, know i respect your... ideas... but yet the As usual you are reffering too is a bit too much close to science-fiction-fantasy-superheros-movies to me.

It's dangerous you know.
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Nov 20 2019 07:14pm
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Sorry for cutting the others parts of your post, know i respect your... ideas... but yet the As usual you are reffering too is a bit too much close to science-fiction-fantasy-superheros-movies to me.

It's dangerous you know.


Yes you did everyone a favor as you trimmed some of the vertical length of your reply so we don't have to scroll farther
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Nov 20 2019 07:33pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 21 Nov 2019 02:14)
Yes you did everyone a favor as you trimmed some of the vertical length of your reply so we don't have to scroll farther


Sorry for typos. Hunter Biden is a lovely profile for someone who want to spread dirt.
Need more stories pls :mellow:
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