Dude, you have one point you make in every topic than concerns the US. You make the point that the US is weak.
Where are you from?

what does my nationality have to do with my argument? are you trying to go full ad hominem now since you can't refute my point?
to satisfy your curiosity: i'm frome rhineland-palatinate, do your best to show how that makes trump's failed bluff and incompetence regarding the korea issue any better...

Oh, you hate Trump, not the US.
Well, considering Trump is "just" the president...I wouldn't worry about Trump.

You say you have a point. Is it that we should go into NK and kill everyone? And just not worry about SK or Japan?

If you have a better solution, I'm sure the world is ready to hear it.



/e Btw, most of the rest of the world just call ALL of Germany...Germany.

This post was edited by Ghot on Sep 13 2017 01:19am

learn to read, kid. my point is that it was a failed bluff and it has been called immediately. my point is that it was an unnecessary and empty threat that just needlessly undermined trump's and ultimately america's credibility. my point is that only his cultists would fail to acknowledge that and desperately pivot things like "oh do you want him to stay true to his word? you know that would mean killing millions of innocent people" - thanks again for making my point, hahaha...

This post was edited by fender on Sep 13 2017 01:22am

Oh, then maybe we should have nuked Germany in WW II as well?
Just because we CAN do something, doesn't necessarily mean we should.

America's military might doesn't depend on any one president...surely you realize that.

Anyways, I'm still waiting to hear YOUR solution to the North Korea problem.

Im not sure if i read the post here or in an article elsewhere, but iirc it was an SK citizen who wrote it saying they have plenty of military personnel + anti-missile artillery stationed along the border to intercept any attacks. That coupled with the fact NK is too close to SK to use any nukes.

Is SK even in any danger? It sounds like NKs efforts would be moot and soon after the US would annihilate them.




Second point- are there no mutual corporate interests (from Big Corporations) that could pull some strings behind the scenes and initiate NK to cease it's efforts? ie multinational corporate entities that are both chinese/american that may be affected by this?

just like i predicted, the only reason you wanted to know where i'm from is to make this personal and find more ways to pivot.

on topic though, you're again just elaborating WHY trump's threat was stupid to begin with. and while i already stated that kim would have probably pushed north korea's nuclear development anyway (something you could have noticed if you were able to read properly), the first step to a better solution would have been to NOT make empty threats and rather focus on working with china to find diplomatic solutions - that way you would at least not look like an utterly incompetent idiot and a toothless tiger when your bluff got called...

If anything big companies would push for war cause they make bank off it. Like how henry ford made tons of armored vehicles for germany from factories he owned in germany. He even sued the US government for bombing them. Or the oil companies from the US selling the germans oil through the entire war.


@Ghot The US had every intention of dropping nukes on germany if need be. Germany fell before the nukes were fully ready to go.

This post was edited by Hacintosh on Sep 13 2017 01:39am

apparently you never heard of conventional weapons, huh? seoul (and american military bases in the region) are very much in artillery range - and the north korean army, despite being technologically at a huge disadvantage, is MASSIVE. also you conveniently ignored the part of japan being very much a "viable" target to nuke for north korea...

Who is foolish enough to judge a book by it's cover?

No matter who is president or what they said, NK was still going to do what they have been doing. They just didn't start making nukes since Trump came to office.
Even NK knows, no matter what Trump says, that we could handily kick their ass.





As for SK. They think they could stop everything with their 6 THAAD emplacements. The gamble, ofc is Seoul, SK which is home to 25 million people and 40 miles from NK's border.
NK doesn't even have to launch a nuke at SK they could carry one into Seoul in a hay cart or similar.






The problem seems to be China, and to a somewhat lesser extent Russia, as I have said before.
There are 5 countries with veto power in the UN. Those being China, France, Russia, United Kingdom, and United States.

The entire UN wanted to shut off the oil supplies to NK, which would have ground NK to a halt. But China and Russia, said they would veto that.
There are many diplomatic ways to stop NK but for China standing in the way.

This post was edited by Ghot on Sep 13 2017 01:56am