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May 27 2022 07:36am
Quote (Ironfister @ 27 May 2022 21:31)
What did I say about Hitler and ww2 that you dislike?
Honestly have no idea.


I dont have any problem, I just wanted to know if you are Singaporean or Chinese or other nation, to understand your history, your position.
About the chinese occupation. Chinese promised HongKong people freedom, one country two systems, at least "grace period" until 2047year for existing people to live their lifes as they did before.
yet they didnt really fulfill it, and took away people freedom.
Protests were shut by force, and many HongKong people were inprisoned in mainland China.
So I personally consider China actions in HongKong unlawful, and therefore an occupation of the free citizens of HongKong.
Not the worst occupation in the human history, but still an occupation.
Please note this is my personal opinion only.


Is Hawaii an Occupation by the United States of America?
Are you occupying this land now ?
Danzig

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May 27 2022 07:37am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 27 May 2022 16:36)
Is Hawaii an Occupation by the United States of America?
Are you occupying this land now ?
Danzig


It's democratically occupied. It's different, you don't understand. :)
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May 27 2022 07:45am
Quote (Ironfister @ 27 May 2022 21:31)
What did I say about Hitler and ww2 that you dislike?
Honestly have no idea.


I dont have any problem, I just wanted to know if you are Singaporean or Chinese or other nation, to understand your history, your position.
About the chinese occupation. Chinese promised HongKong people freedom, one country two systems, at least "grace period" until 2047year for existing people to live their lifes as they did before.
yet they didnt really fulfill it, and took away people freedom.
Protests were shut by force, and many HongKong people were inprisoned in mainland China.
So I personally consider China actions in HongKong unlawful, and therefore an occupation of the free citizens of HongKong.
Not the worst occupation in the human history, but still an occupation.
Please note this is my personal opinion only.


So next time when we are discussing world or horrible events.
Can I say
The American occupied California is now having a lot of homeless problems we need to form a coalition to help them fight the American government to give them rights and freedom and save them?
Or The fishes and the penguins in the British Occupied Falkland islands may be facing extinction can we form a coalition to free the Falklands so as to return her natural habitat to what it used to be and give it back to Argentina?



This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on May 27 2022 07:46am
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May 27 2022 07:53am
Quote (Norlander @ 27 May 2022 21:37)
It's democratically occupied. It's different, you don't understand. :)


Our Polish friend is on too much Vodka today.
He is lecturing me on a place where I have been.

1. Staying for 11 years
2. Went to protest and watch everything unfold.
3. Found out personally with my Protestor friends that there are a significant amount of foreign interference.
4. That I know about the Sino-British Declaration on Hong Kong.
5. That we know some of these protestors wanted Hong Kong to be a independent nation.
6. That they tried to destroyed the cities like BLM.
7. That this protestors excommunicated families and friends who have a different or neutral opinion.
8. That Hong Kong doesn't have a national security law that prevents foreign interference for as long as we know until recently.
9. That those imprison in China for freaking less than 24 months and with remission is already out and they violated the China law when their escape boats are in Chinese controlled territory and seas when they are caught
10. Tons of guns and rifles and homemade bombs " terrorist" style is being planted in bins around the island.
11. And he doesn't know shit about the 50 year grace period.
12. And talking so much shit that he know what the basic law is.

Also his idea of freedom is appearing to me like a BLM activist. Maybe we should import some LBGTQ pro plus HDTV and BLM to Poland and let's see if he can still talk about Freedom.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on May 27 2022 07:55am
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ May 27 2022 09:53am)
Our Polish friend is on too much Vodka today.
He is lecturing me on a place where I have been.

1. Staying for 11 years
2. Went to protest and watch everything unfold.
3. Found out personally with my Protestor friends that there are a significant amount of foreign interference.
4. That I know about the Sino-British Declaration on Hong Kong.
5. That we know some of these protestors wanted Hong Kong to be a independent nation.
6. That they tried to destroyed the cities like BLM.
7. That this protestors excommunicated families and friends who have a different or neutral opinion.
8. That Hong Kong doesn't have a national security law that prevents foreign interference for as long as we know until recently.
9. That those imprison in China for freaking less than 24 months and with remission is already out and they violated the China law when their escape boats are in Chinese controlled territory and seas when they are caught
10. Tons of guns and rifles and homemade bombs " terrorist" style is being planted in bins around the island.
11. And he doesn't know shit about the 50 year grace period.
12. And talking so much shit that he know what the basic law is.

Also his idea of freedom is appearing to me like a BLM activist. Maybe we should import some LBGTQ pro plus HDTV and BLM to Poland and let's see if he can still talk about Freedom.


https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2022/05/26/political-prisoners-are-packing-hong-kongs-jails
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Quote (bogie160 @ 27 May 2022 21:58)


I know who exactly are inside, as a matter of fact I know a few personally.
As a matter of fact , I protested beside some of them before.
Your point of showing me the Economist doesn't really mean anything really.

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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 27 May 2022 16:53)
Our Polish friend is on too much Vodka today.
He is lecturing me on a place where I have been.

1. Staying for 11 years
2. Went to protest and watch everything unfold.
3. Found out personally with my Protestor friends that there are a significant amount of foreign interference.
4. That I know about the Sino-British Declaration on Hong Kong.
5. That we know some of these protestors wanted Hong Kong to be a independent nation.
6. That they tried to destroyed the cities like BLM.
7. That this protestors excommunicated families and friends who have a different or neutral opinion.
8. That Hong Kong doesn't have a national security law that prevents foreign interference for as long as we know until recently.
9. That those imprison in China for freaking less than 24 months and with remission is already out and they violated the China law when their escape boats are in Chinese controlled territory and seas when they are caught
10. Tons of guns and rifles and homemade bombs " terrorist" style is being planted in bins around the island.
11. And he doesn't know shit about the 50 year grace period.
12. And talking so much shit that he know what the basic law is.

Also his idea of freedom is appearing to me like a BLM activist. Maybe we should import some LBGTQ pro plus HDTV and BLM to Poland and let's see if he can still talk about Freedom.


Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi. Spilling Vietnamese blood thousands kilometers away is not the same like having a war at your own gates. The closer it is to GB or US the more democratic blood coursing through the veins. They were silent while democratically bombing Iraq, Yugoslavia, Vietnam and when you were against it you'll be named leftist for such unpatriotic position.
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May 27 2022 08:18am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ May 27 2022 03:05pm)
I know who exactly are inside, as a matter of fact I know a few personally.
As a matter of fact , I protested beside some of them before.
Your point of showing me the Economist doesn't really mean anything really.


For background, in western society (at least european society, and specifically England) the narrative is as follows: "China" is the Baddy. They have an unhealthy inclination towards Australia, their neighbors and on the world stage as well as towards Religion and those they deem lesser races. They are now a threat. They are against certain religions and are, for want of a better expression, under communist rule which is oppressing their citizens. Therefore anything that they do which is bad will get alot of publicity. This currently includes:

1. The Mass "Re-education centres"
2. The Mass bulldozering of churches
3. The Mass incarceration of people
4. The Mass genocide of people
5. That it is not a free/open country, not a democracy but a communist dictatorship
6. A variety of other items, including but not limited to the theft of technology and the low value of life which chinese hold as compared to the heroes of the west that can do no wrong.

These are not my views, they are the items which we constantly hear about. This is what we get day in day out week in week out year in year out. Only negative news, nothing positive. As a consequence of this China is probably more feared then Russia. Either today or 1 year ago.

If I were to take the long view I would say:

China visited Africa. They looked around, said hello, and left. Europe visited Africa, they stuck around and did a lot more then just say hello. Ultimately we are talking about different cultures and different forms of government etc. There are flaws in all societies. Yes europe is more open, yes bad things happen in china, yes we all want a peaceful world but nowhere is perfect.

This post was edited by ferdia on May 27 2022 08:25am
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Quote (ferdia @ 27 May 2022 22:18)
For background, in western society (at least european society, and specifically England) the narrative is as follows: "China" is the Baddy. They have an unhealthy inclination towards Australia, Religion and those they deem lesser races. They are now a threat. They are against certain religions and are, for want of a better expression, under communist rule which is oppressing their citizens. Therefore anything that they do which is bad will get alot of publicity. This currently includes:

1. The Mass "Re-education centres"
2. The Mass bulldozering of churches
3. The Mass incarceration of people
4. The Mass genocide of people
5. That it is not a free/open country, not a democracy
5. A variety of other items

This is what we get day in day out week in week out year in year out. Only negative news, nothing positive. As a consequence of this China is probably more feared the Russia. Either today or 1 year ago.


I know that pretty well.
I live in Hong Kong, I left Singapore to Hong Kong and even after all these kerfuffle for the past 8 years Hong Kong is still free.
Dude, for the first time in my life I get to read a local porn magazine when I first came to hong kong.
Not to mention I get to buy chewing and bubble gum and consume it.
I get to piss and talk shit about HK local politician whether they are pro China or Pro independent and Pro Democratic and I don't get into shit.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on May 27 2022 08:22am
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ May 27 2022 03:21pm)
I know that pretty well.
I live in Hong Kong, I left Singapore to Hong Kong and even after all these kerfuffle for the past 8 years Hong Kong is still free.
Dude, for the first time in my life I get to read a local porn magazine when I first came to hong kong.
Not to mention I get to buy chewing and bubble gum and consume it.
I get to piss and talk shit about HK local politician whether they are pro China or Pro independent and Pro Democratic and I don't get into shit.


i made a minor edit at the end.

also porn will make you go blind.

This post was edited by ferdia on May 27 2022 08:24am
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