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May 27 2022 12:55am
Quote (Djunior @ 27 May 2022 02:52)
Why do you think they annexed Crimea? Could it perhaps have something to do with Sevastopol and Russia's Black Sea fleet? Do you really think any country would have accepted that their adversaries would take over their main naval base after simply joining NATO?

NATO fucked up in 2008, if you don't know what happened you should look into this.

https://www.nato.int/docu/update/2008/04-april/e0403h.html



This is the official source you can't deny it


Ohhhh poor little Putin has to let his soldiers to rape,execute,loot civilians in the north of Kiev because the evil nato is stealing his peacefull military bases
Slurrrp sluuuurt hmm these boots are delicious.



Putin declined to apply to enter NATO... Even if it was possible:
Vladimir Putin wanted Russia to join Nato but did not want his country to have to go through the usual application process and stand in line “with a lot of countries that don’t matter”, according to a former secretary general of the transatlantic alliance.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/04/ex-nato-head-says-putin-wanted-to-join-alliance-early-on-in-his-rule


‘Well, we’re not standing in line with a lot of countries that don’t matter.’”

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on May 27 2022 12:57am
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Quote (Norlander @ 27 May 2022 00:29)
Poisonous frog it was?


novichoke

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your post is a complete non-sense, i guess you will enjoy bearing an AK all day long, hidding in a hole.

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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 26 May 2022 22:10)
US is the Strong Wolf and Nato is her pack.
Russia is the Weak Wolf and lost her pack which used to be the Warsaw pact.
You Poland as part of the pack listen to the pack leader.

There is another up and coming wolf in the East ( China )
And another up and coming wolf in the South ( India )

And to survive in this world
We ( South East Asia ) are the foxes. We have to balance on both ends.
Foxes will stay away as much as possible from these wolf packs and lone wolves.
They are happy eating small rodents every now and then and perhaps steal a chicken or two if there is a chance.


And what country is yours? You sometimes speak about Singapore, yet your location in your profile shows Hong Kong which is now occupied by China.
We are not Wolf in a meaning we dont have any imperial ambitions ourselves. But its true we stick and help USA, because its strategic alliance. You can say that we are voluntary USA vassal state.
Usa says "Hey buddies, lets make a trip to Iraq, there are some bad folks there" and we go there without really asking questions.
In our location of Europe, right on Russia border, a country needs to make a choice if they want to be USA vassal state, or become a country occupied by the Russians.
We are also part of EU, but really EU is not much more than a trade association of Independent small countries, and those Independent small countries in EU care mostly about themselves and their short term business, so this isn't really an alternative to USA, sorry.
Maybe someday EU moves further to unite, to create something like United States of Europe, that would be cool indeed. But I dont see it coming.
USA is a decent country, and people are free and rich, while Russia is a negation of that - choice for Poland is clear.
We can only hope, that when worst comes, and Russia attacks us, USA will help at least a little bit.
Ukraine wanted to stay neutral, and see what it became to them.
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May 27 2022 02:48am
Quote (Ironfister @ 27 May 2022 16:35)
And what country is yours? You sometimes speak about Singapore, yet your location in your profile shows Hong Kong which is now occupied by China.
We are not Wolf in a meaning we dont have any imperial ambitions ourselves. But its true we stick and help USA, because its strategic alliance. You can say that we are voluntary USA vassal state.
Usa says "Hey buddies, lets make a trip to Iraq, there are some bad folks there" and we go there without really asking questions.
In our location of Europe, right on Russia border, a country needs to make a choice if they want to be USA vassal state, or become a country occupied by the Russians.
We are also part of EU, but really EU is not much more than a trade association of Independent small countries, and those Independent small countries in EU care mostly about themselves and their short term business, so this isn't really an alternative to USA, sorry.
Maybe someday EU moves further to unite, to create something like United States of Europe, that would be cool indeed. But I dont see it coming.
USA is a decent country, and people are free and rich, while Russia is a negation of that - choice for Poland is clear.
We can only hope, that when worst comes, and Russia attacks us, USA will help at least a little bit.
Ukraine wanted to stay neutral, and see what it became to them.


I am Singaporean.
I work in Hong Kong. You have a problem ?

And what do you mean by the bold comment above?

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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 27 May 2022 11:48)
I am Singaporean.
I work in Hong Kong. You have a problem ?

And what do you mean by the bold comment above?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Nanking
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Quote (Ironfister @ 27 May 2022 16:35)
And what country is yours? You sometimes speak about Singapore, yet your location in your profile shows Hong Kong which is now occupied by China.
We are not Wolf in a meaning we dont have any imperial ambitions ourselves. But its true we stick and help USA, because its strategic alliance. You can say that we are voluntary USA vassal state.
Usa says "Hey buddies, lets make a trip to Iraq, there are some bad folks there" and we go there without really asking questions.
In our location of Europe, right on Russia border, a country needs to make a choice if they want to be USA vassal state, or become a country occupied by the Russians.
We are also part of EU, but really EU is not much more than a trade association of Independent small countries, and those Independent small countries in EU care mostly about themselves and their short term business, so this isn't really an alternative to USA, sorry.
Maybe someday EU moves further to unite, to create something like United States of Europe, that would be cool indeed. But I dont see it coming.
USA is a decent country, and people are free and rich, while Russia is a negation of that - choice for Poland is clear.
We can only hope, that when worst comes, and Russia attacks us, USA will help at least a little bit.
Ukraine wanted to stay neutral, and see what it became to them.


Now there you go happy?

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May 27 2022 03:13am
Quote (Norlander @ 27 May 2022 17:11)


I know that article quite well.
Our Polish friend have some very interesting take on history.
But I respect his comments on Hong Kong being " occupied" by China.
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May 27 2022 03:17am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ May 27 2022 10:13am)
I know that article quite well.
Our Polish friend have some very interesting take on history.
But I respect his comments on Hong Kong being " occupied" by China.


if you ignore his comments re: WW2 and Hitler, the rest is all fine to be honest, and perfectly normal, some things we know some things we dont. some things we assume, some things we wont agree on etc. We dont all have to agree on everything. one thing - he is right:

the US (broadly) has (more) people (that) are free and rich, while Russia is a negation of that - choice for Poland is clear.

also

the US would lose all credibility if they did not help Poland if you were attacked by Russia (or anyone). From a geopolitical stand point they will always have your back.

This post was edited by ferdia on May 27 2022 03:18am
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Quote (ferdia @ 27 May 2022 17:17)
if you ignore his comments re: WW2 and Hitler, the rest is all fine to be honest, and perfectly normal, some things we know some things we dont. some things we assume, some things we wont agree on etc. We dont all have to agree on everything. one thing - he is right:

the US (broadly) has (more) people (that) are free and rich, while Russia is a negation of that - choice for Poland is clear.

also

^ironfister the US would lose all credibility if they did not help Poland if you were attacked by Russia (or anyone). From a geopolitical stand point they will always have your back.


I will not ignore his comments on ww2 and Hitler. I think you understand as I have mentioned before that my Aunts and family members were killed and raped by Nazi's allies in the East.
I am not sure if your remember my comment on this thread about that.
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May 27 2022 03:46am
Chopdix style.
What if Azov neonazies forced poxed monkeys to sleep with gays in their biolabs?
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