Eastern EU wasn't freed, the USSR left without a shot fired after extensive negotiations. If you want to contest this I'll dig up the sources it's all well documented.

You don't seem to understand international politics. Were talking about international politics on the highest level btw. Neither side is going to accept it when they're called the bad guys and given the finger.

The only solution is agreement and not backstabbing one another after negotiations which is what NATO did.

You seem to be locked in some form of ideological war against the Russians. Good luck with it, NATO should pull out of Poland and let you deal with it yourselves. Let's see how quickly you can come to agreements instead of dragging everyone into a pointless war.

Mate sometimes I feel sorry for him.
But on the other hand I can understand exactly how he feels.
But still, I think he cannot really see the end game.
And when he knows the end game and what the world really is , he will really think twice.

How do you expect a sheep to get into agreement with a wolf.
We had 300 years of Russia attacking us.
What we learned: when you show Russians your weakness, when you try to appease them, that's the time they abuse it and attack.
Fortunately now Russia is weak. They only really have nukes, but I doubt they will use it as an attacker, its a defensive weapon, mutual destruction.

You are not exactly the Sheep.
You are a wolf too.
You are a weak wolf caught between two wolfs
And one of the wolf is weak and injured.
And another wolf is attacking that weak and injured wolf.
You are part of the stronger wolf pack, but you are still a wolf , just not the leader of the pack.

So you're not willing to set aside the past is that what it is? You hate Russians perhaps because of the past, in that case you should hate the Germans too for what they did and the West too for selling you guys out in 1939.

Maybe the Ukrainians also shouldn't set aside the past too.

Massacre of Ukrainians by Poles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hrubiesz%C3%B3w_revolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacification_of_Ukrainians_in_Eastern_Galicia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paw%C5%82okoma_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruda_R%C3%B3%C5%BCaniecka_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahry%C5%84_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wierzchowiny_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zawadka_Morochowska_massacres

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on May 26 2022 01:12pm

no this makes no sense. the US is not running thin on funds, i think they just agreed on a multi million package? they have been sending millions every year, why stop now ? they are literally beating their former rival into a corner. ukraine offensive in ukraine ? sure, inevitable. exactly what was planned. they dont need nato intervention they just need guidance and weapons. ofc zelensky will say no. they planned for this war years ago, they want a complete break from russia and they dont care about the cost, they are doing great. this should not be news to anyone. "Nato" should be happy to spend w/e they have to. i mean no "eu" or us personell deaths, this entire post makes no sense to me at all!

to my mind everything is going great for the US in ukraine right now. for sure there will be set backs but in the round, this must be even better then what the imagined back in 2014~2018 (remember now, ukraine is on record *as evidenced by the video posted in this thread* as planning for this war since then, and for sure so was the US).

This post was edited by ferdia on May 26 2022 01:31pm

The us/eu can spend w/e they can but this war is not making sense to them anymore. You look at the situation in the US right now. They are complaining about Biden giving that much money to Ukraine and yet they cannot even solve the baby formula issue.
Ukraine offensive not in Ukraine but offensive into Russia.
Zelensky doesn't care about the cost anyways , most of the funds and military equipment is from US and EU.
But the key here is , it seems to the "experts" in Taiwan are saying that the US is thinking twice about continuing such heavy support. And if the US starts to waver, the EU might follow suit.
It doesn't look good for the Ukrainians at all.

Therefore, ( as the Taiwanese debate show said ) If the US / West do not get involved " more ", then maybe this will be a lost cost.
The amount of military equipment given to the Ukrainians are also disappearing left right and center. Everyone is wondering what is happening right now.

That is what I was watching and what they were saying.

?? In your story which Wolf is who?

I forgive Russians quickly, in fact you are correct that Russian soldiers left Poland without resistance and bloodsheld.
They even didnt tell us "we will leave Poland, but you cannot get into NATO", so we get into NATO quickly after.
It was nice of Russians in 90s, I admit that.
I watched the Police academy 7 as a teenager, in this comedy movie Russians were cooperating with Americans.
I was very happy back then, that the cold war is over.
Unfortunately future showed, that it was only short timespan of Russian goodwill and few good people in power.
Now we are back in the cold war, or worse
Except there is no Warsaw pact, no ussr, Russia is half the country it used to be during coldwar.
I dont hate Germans, I understand they fallen under nazi propaganda, and even not every german supported nazi but couldnt protest as nazi were killing opposition.
And the west wasnt really strong enough back then.
West was scared of opposing Hitler, just as some are scared today of saying "no" to Russia threats and demands. They prefer to keep appeasing the dictator, feeding him with millions of people and land.
I dont agree with such policy, but what can I do, people do what they want.

US is the Strong Wolf and Nato is her pack.
Russia is the Weak Wolf and lost her pack which used to be the Warsaw pact.
You Poland as part of the pack listen to the pack leader.

There is another up and coming wolf in the East ( China )
And another up and coming wolf in the South ( India )

And to survive in this world
We ( South East Asia ) are the foxes. We have to balance on both ends.
Foxes will stay away as much as possible from these wolf packs and lone wolves.
They are happy eating small rodents every now and then and perhaps steal a chicken or two if there is a chance.