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May 26 2022 08:49am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 26 May 2022 13:45)
What do you guys think of this.
https://i.imgur.com/1odcq1Bl.jpg


False information and that Chinese were not present but still: If Russia change and join the West... ^_^
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May 26 2022 08:52am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ May 26 2022 03:44pm)
I will show you something funny and why MSM and Media can manipulate people around the world and getaway with it laughing for their political , Geo Political and ideological aspirations.

But of Course Andy Boreham is being painted as a China Shill and propaganda mouthpiece.

https://i.imgur.com/eoTdgVnl.jpg


Look, if the majority of people in western society can buy in to Russia not being forced into this war, then really who cares about facts anymore.
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May 26 2022 09:19am
Quote (ferdia @ 26 May 2022 22:52)
Look, if the majority of people in western society can buy in to Russia not being forced into this war, then really who cares about facts anymore.


nobody cares about facts anymore. Just waiting to see how Nato is going to treat the Ukraine in the next coming 2 to 3 months.
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May 26 2022 09:31am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ May 26 2022 04:19pm)
nobody cares about facts anymore. Just waiting to see how Nato is going to treat the Ukraine in the next coming 2 to 3 months.


I actually dont understand this, please expand.
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May 26 2022 09:43am
Quote (ferdia @ 26 May 2022 23:31)
I actually dont understand this, please expand.


Taiwanese media is saying that US is running thin on the Funds giving to Ukraine.
They need to divert their attention more and more to Eastern theater. The amounts of weapons that are being supplied to Ukraine is now running thin as well.
Russia is now going on the defense and they might not go on the offense anymore.
Ukraine is thinking of going into a counter attack but they will need about 300 to 400k personnel to launch one.
So without a proper Nato intervention it will not happen.

Kissinger have said in recent weeks to Zelensky to give up some of Ukraine's territory to Russia and work out with Putin to stop the war.
But Zelensky have said no.
However within the last two days Zelensky is now considering speaking to Putin direct for a ceasefire.

The amount of money that EU and US need to burn on Ukraine is seemingly not making sense at the moment.
With the US diverting their attention to the East and South East and Pacific , The Taiwanese media is thinking how would this pan out in the next couple of months.

I am listening to it live now. So it just comes to my mind.
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May 26 2022 10:09am
Quote (Djunior @ 26 May 2022 12:18)
NATO countries have access to NATO weapons and equipment, this is obvious. Are you saying Poland doesn't use NATO equipment? If I'd ask google I'm pretty sure a long list of all kind of shit pops up.

Also NATO members take part in NATO exercises which oftentimes happen near the borders of non-NATO countries. It's easy to see this as a provocation. NATO stating it's only a show of force meant as deterrent doesn't matter to the other side. If you think about it you can understand this.

Most importantly missile defense bases were planned in Europe, Poland accepted and the base was planned in Redzikowo. Now it's replaced by Aegis missile defense system.


What you doing is manipulation dear Russia lover.
You specifically said: "installing all kinds of weapon system right on the border"
When one thinks about a weapon systems he thinks about missiles and artilleries that are ready to attack, close to the border.
Now when I checked you on details, you say to me: "oh you guys surely have some NATO weapons in your country" sure we have: machine guns, pistols, armored jeeps and so on. But its not a "weapon system that is put on Russia border", as you try to describe it.
That's a manipulation, you try to manipulate people by telling half-lies.
Redzikowo is in western Poland, far from Russia, and will only have anti-missiles defense, to shoot enemy rockets if he attacks. Defense system, not for attack, even if its built. Far away from the border also.
We as Poland have only like 50 f-16 jets. And they are also stationed in western Poland, far away from the border.
Russia has 1500jets, even if f16 is better than Russian jet, and is like 2russian jets, its still 100 vs 1500. Poland wasnt militarized, at least not until the war started.
Now we need to increase our military spending, which is sad.

On the other hand, Russia years ago put Iskanders in Kaliningrad, their most western territory possibly, probably with nuclear headers, so they can reach all Poland and Berlin too.
They are doing to NATO, what you are falsely accusing NATO.
Yet you dont find this Russian behavior wrong in any way.
Are you on their pay check or smth?
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May 26 2022 10:26am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 26 May 2022 17:44)
I will show you something funny and why MSM and Media can manipulate people around the world and getaway with it laughing for their political , Geo Political and ideological aspirations.

But of Course Andy Boreham is being painted as a China Shill and propaganda mouthpiece.

https://i.imgur.com/eoTdgVnl.jpg


So racist... Vietnamese even look different.
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May 26 2022 11:05am
Quote (Ironfister @ May 26 2022 06:09pm)
What you doing is manipulation dear Russia lover.
You specifically said: "installing all kinds of weapon system right on the border"
When one thinks about a weapon systems he thinks about missiles and artilleries that are ready to attack, close to the border.
Now when I checked you on details, you say to me: "oh you guys surely have some NATO weapons in your country" sure we have: machine guns, pistols, armored jeeps and so on. But its not a "weapon system that is put on Russia border", as you try to describe it.
That's a manipulation, you try to manipulate people by telling half-lies.
Redzikowo is in western Poland, far from Russia, and will only have anti-missiles defense, to shoot enemy rockets if he attacks. Defense system, not for attack, even if its built. Far away from the border also.
We as Poland have only like 50 f-16 jets. And they are also stationed in western Poland, far away from the border.
Russia has 1500jets, even if f16 is better than Russian jet, and is like 2russian jets, its still 100 vs 1500. Poland wasnt militarized, at least not until the war started.
Now we need to increase our military spending, which is sad.

On the other hand, Russia years ago put Iskanders in Kaliningrad, their most western territory possibly, probably with nuclear headers, so they can reach all Poland and Berlin too.
They are doing to NATO, what you are falsely accusing NATO.
Yet you dont find this Russian behavior wrong in any way.
Are you on their pay check or smth?


You're not going to tell me you don't have NATO weapon systems. I just checked on Leopard 2 MBT and you have them since early 2000s. Also don't tell us these tanks don't operate near the borders, I bet they're stationed near the borders.

Are you saying Leopard 2 isn't a modern weapon system? Go to the Kremlin and tell them. I'm sure they'll tell you you are correct and also agree that international politics should be a one-sided affair (NATO gets to decide everything and break promises).

And in case they don't agree with you just tell them you painted smiley faces on your rockets. See, they're harmless ^^

NATO and USSR agreed in early 1990s. NATO fucked up. Sorry dude, you're harvesting what you've sowed 3 decades ago.

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May 26 2022 11:32am
Quote (Djunior @ 26 May 2022 19:05)
You're not going to tell me you don't have NATO weapon systems. I just checked on Leopard 2 MBT and you have them since early 2000s. Also don't tell us these tanks don't operate near the borders, I bet they're stationed near the borders.

Are you saying Leopard 2 isn't a modern weapon system? Go to the Kremlin and tell them. I'm sure they'll tell you you are correct and also agree that international politics should be a one-sided affair (NATO gets to decide everything and break promises).

And in case they don't agree with you just tell them you painted smiley faces on your rockets. See, they're harmless ^^

NATO and USSR agreed in early 1990s. NATO fucked up. Sorry dude, you're harvesting what you've sowed 3 decades ago.


So you are telling me that country having a tank means "installing weapon system on Russian border". How many leopard tanks Poland has? 250. That's a national force, not NATOs.
Russia had at least ten times more tanks before the war.
The agreement from 1990 you are refering to was about Germany status.
Eastern Europe was still under Russian occupation by that time, and was freed one year later.
So its all just Russian imagination and misinterpretation, nothing more.
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May 26 2022 11:35am
Quote (Ironfister @ 27 May 2022 01:32)
So you are telling me that country having a tank means "installing weapon system on Russian border". How many leopard tanks Poland has? 250. That's a national force, not NATOs.
Russia had at least ten times more tanks before the war.
The agreement from 1990 you are refering to was about Germany status.
Eastern Europe was still under Russian occupation by that time, and was freed one year later.
So its all just Russian imagination and misinterpretation, nothing more.


Do you feel threaten if Russia put Nukes on your polish border
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