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Dec 25 2021 06:02pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Dec 25 2021 05:54pm)
As it should be. Since the first two shots don't provide great protection because we're now overwhlemingly seeing Omicron.

Y'all are acting like this is unexpected. Variants happening that escape immunity have been a known possiblity since before Covid was even a concern. It's just how viruses work. Now you guys pretend like "They said we'd never have to get updated vaccines! They lied!" When you were actively informed of the possibility the entire way by every expert.



None at my hospital have omicron they’ve all been tested specifically for variants
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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Dec 26 2021 12:54am)
As it should be. Since the first two shots don't provide great protection because we're now overwhlemingly seeing Omicron.

Y'all are acting like this is unexpected. Variants happening that escape immunity have been a known possiblity since before Covid was even a concern. It's just how viruses work. Now you guys pretend like "They said we'd never have to get updated vaccines! They lied!" When you were actively informed of the possibility the entire way by every expert.


thats how some viruses work, others do not

getting new shots every few months for something that is becoming a fancy cold (omicron) is beyond ridiculous

btw, the pfizer vax creator promised multiple year protection + 95% lower spread and we are now at "get your booster after 3 months" and "it doesnt slow the spread, but lets pretend that it does"

but feel free to be totally blind, when big pharma keeps moving the goalposts

soon its "we always knew everybody needs 4 shots" just wait for it

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Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Dec 25 2021 06:04pm)
thats how some viruses work, others do not

getting new shots every few months for something that is becoming a fancy cold (omicron) is beyond ridiculous

btw, the pfizer vax creator promised multiple year protection + 95% lower spread and we are now at "get your booster after 3 months" and "it doesnt slow the spread, but lets pretend that it does"

but feel free to be totally blind, when big pharma keeps moving the goalposts

soon its "we always knew everybody needs 4 shots" just wait for it


Long lasting protection for the original strain dumb dumb.

Omicron isn't a fancy cold get. Not even close. The spread is way faster and that still strains capacity even if it's a lower lethality.
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They aren’t 75-80% unvaccinated lol. Most of the ICU patients have the first two shots but without the booster they are considered “unvaccinated”


It's false AND biased, first i could admit it's like 50/50 but... We include very old and immuno depressed patients that are vulnerable.
And we also have to add this bias:




Picture helps understand how stupid it is.

Btw the ones who are really paying the price are old ones who refused vaccines... it's an easy 90 (no vax) / 10 (2dnd shot) and even 95 (no vax) / 5 (3rd shot)
May have to extend on deceased people.

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This is also terrible and give an idea how can some people be fucked in the head :

A 57-year-old woman with a false vaccination certificate died from COVID-19 in a Hauts-de-Seine hospital, while she was pretending to be vaccinated to the doctors.
=> This means this horrible sub-human contaminated ALOT of people, hidding behind a false pass... Terribly selfish, costing millions. Wtf a cancer to humanity.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Dec 25 2021 08:18pm
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It's false AND biased, first i could admit it's like 50/50 but... We include very old and immuno depressed patients that are vulnerable.
And we also have to add this bias:

https://ourworldindata.org/uploads/2021/11/Base-rate-fallacy-explanation-03-400x225.png


Picture helps understand how stupid it is.

Btw the ones who are really paying the price are old ones who refused vaccines... it's an easy 90 (no vax) / 10 (2dnd shot) and even 95 (no vax) / 5 (3rd shot)
May have to extend on deceased people.

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This is also terrible and give an idea how can some people be fucked in the head :

A 57-year-old woman with a false vaccination certificate died from COVID-19 in a Hauts-de-Seine hospital, while she was pretending to be vaccinated to the doctors.
=> This means this horrible sub-human contaminated ALOT of people, hidding behind a false pass... Terribly selfish, costing millions. Wtf a cancer to humanity.



Well in USA even if you’re vaccinated you get tested for covid on admittance to any hospital floor, and if you’re positive, despite being vaccinated, you’re thrown into a covid isolation room and everyone treating you is wearing isolation attire. Plus everyone in a hospital is required to wear masks even if vaxxed including her if she leaves her room. So if masks work she shouldn’t have infected many.

Agree old ppl and unhealthy people should definitely get vaccinated although the population this year seems younger like 50’s

This post was edited by KRR on Dec 25 2021 08:49pm
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https://www.wcax.com/2021/12/22/covid-positive-vermonters-with-no-symptoms-clog-up-ers/

Covid cases way up, serious cases way down.
Result is hospitals are overwhelmed with people who tested positive but are asymptomatic and not at risk. And they are being put in a situation where employers wont accept a takehome test without a PCR from a hospital to start paid isolation, yet showing up at your job after testing positive on a takehome and ignoring it can get you fired too. People are being required to flood into hospitals even though they dont need care, so the actual rate of treatment has dropped precipitously but hospital staff are still overwhelmed
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Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 26 2021 12:32am)
https://www.wcax.com/2021/12/22/covid-positive-vermonters-with-no-symptoms-clog-up-ers/

Covid cases way up, serious cases way down.
Result is hospitals are overwhelmed with people who tested positive but are asymptomatic and not at risk. And they are being put in a situation where employers wont accept a takehome test without a PCR from a hospital to start paid isolation, yet showing up at your job after testing positive on a takehome and ignoring it can get you fired too. People are being required to flood into hospitals even though they dont need care, so the actual rate of treatment has dropped precipitously but hospital staff are still overwhelmed



Tl;dr

If you get sick just call out for a sinus infection and dont get tested.
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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Dec 25 2021 06:54pm)
As it should be. Since the first two shots don't provide great protection because we're now overwhlemingly seeing Omicron.

Y'all are acting like this is unexpected. Variants happening that escape immunity have been a known possiblity since before Covid was even a concern. It's just how viruses work. Now you guys pretend like "They said we'd never have to get updated vaccines! They lied!" When you were actively informed of the possibility the entire way by every expert.


You have a vague theory about the factors involved that is unfalsifiable. Unfalsifiable theories should always be disregarded as trash.
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Dec 26 2021 01:37pm
never forget, the same people who think that showing your ID to vote is racist, want you to show your ID and vax passport to buy a coffee
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Quote (EndlessSky @ Dec 26 2021 01:17pm)
You have a vague theory about the factors involved that is unfalsifiable. Unfalsifiable theories should always be disregarded as trash.


None of what I said is vague in the slightest. You're just dumb.

Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Dec 26 2021 01:37pm)
never forget, the same people who think that showing your ID to vote is racist, want you to show your ID and vax passport to buy a coffee


Buying a coffee isn't a constitutional right, and we don't have documents showing that the people creating the laws are explicitly targeting racial groups with their policy design.
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